Winter San Diego Middle School and Novice Invitational
2019 — San Diego, CA/US
Public Forum Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show HideUpdate: If you do everything you can to make the round go as quick as possible, I will increase your speaks (joining early if pairings go up early, not frivolously calling for cards or taking forever to produce them, etc.)
I'm Tejas, I debated a couple years at Del Norte
I STRONGLY prefer it if you frontline offense and whatever you're going for in second rebuttal
Defense is sticky for the first speaking team for whatever the second rebuttal doesn't frontline. However, if the second speaking team DOES frontline, defense is NOT sticky. However, even if second rebuttal doesn’t frontline turns, they need to be extended in the summary for them to generate offense.
If they are extended from rebuttal to final by the first speaking team, given that the second rebuttal did not frontline them, they will be evaluated as terminal defense.
I need full extensions in summary and final
Weigh as early in the round as possible, preferably starting in rebuttal
I'm fine with speed, but send a doc if you're spreading or if your opponents aren't comfortable with speed
Collapse in the back half please
For theory, K's, tricks, etc. I'll evaluate it, but I'm not the best judge for it, as I haven't debated it much myself, so tread with caution
I usually default competing interps and always yes RVIs unless told to do so otherwise
I default con for policy resolutions and first speaking teams otherwise unless contrary arguments are made
I'm tab
Be aggressive and interrupt as much as you want during cross I literally don't care at all
You can also do flex prep, tag team cross, skip grand, etc.
You don't need to add me to the email chain, I'll call for evidence only if I'm asked to do so
I'm pretty nice with speaks, I'll usually average at least a 29
I don’t call for evidence unless told to do so
If a team thinks they are getting absolutely nuked and forfeits prior to grand cross, I’ll give them double 30s
Have fun
I dislike human interaction so if you have something to say before or after the round make it quick. Not a fan of handshakes but fist bumps are ok. I will disclose if permitted, and am more than happy to give feedback. Try not to spread I want to be able to understand and follow along with your speeches. I am open to different interpretations of the resolution, try not to get too creative tho.
In round:
-I will be timing but I do expect you to time yourselves. I won’t evaluate any arguments made after time.
-Don’t bring up new evidence in summary or final focus. If it wasn’t said in constructive or rebuttal, it doesn’t count.
-Any arguments that are blatantly wrong or disrespectful won’t be evaluated. (Nothing homophobic, racist, sexist and I will drop you if I hear anything islamophobic)
-I’m too lazy to flow back half of the round so weigh your impacts. I will be voting off most impact.
-Nuclear war or WW3 impacts are always a plus for me.
-I will dock speaker points if you’re too quiet. I have to be able to hear you.
-Same with speaking too loud, some of you guys give me headaches
Have fun and good luck. You’re all winners until you’re losers.
I am your coach Yash Gupta, and I did do debate at Pacific Trails Middle School!
im more of a negative brain debater than Steven Zheng
actually weigh pls so I can choose a winner (this whole topic is weighing so if ur not then bruh...)
idc about cross unless the stuff u say is brought up again pls do so
ill try to be as tabula rasa as I can, but no promises
hopefully u time urself so that I dont have to listen to a 6 minute crossfire
if you think ur opps have cut card badly, then ask me to call for it
dont lie aka dont say that ur opps dropped something when they didn't
pls dont use cross to call for cards just use prep for that
if u want feedback I will give, idk about disclosing unless the HIGHER AUTHORITIES are fine with it and so are u
dont ask for preferences unless its not specified on here
speaking things (how well it was to follow your args/responses and how clear you were):
30: ur pretty good
27-29: ur average
25-26: hard to follow along with what you said
<25: sexist/racist/___ist
0: bruh what
They/them ( Ask for other ppls in rounds pls!!)
You can call me whatever. Razeen, Judge, ご主人様.
email chain: razeennasar1@gmail.com
As a judge I critique y'all with feedback. However, I feel judges can't be told about their competency. Especially with the position of authority. Please don't see me as an all-knowing authority figure. I am a student just like y'all. I sleep, go to school sometimes, and am a disappointment to my parents. I'm human not a debate robot. You can use this form to criticize my judging without having your name attached. Or say I'm not lame and I did well.
Note: everything cut down word wise so it takes less time. Hence bare bone wording. Pls ask for elaboration irl :) Based on average reading speed TLDR will take 1 minute, whole thing 6.5 minutes of reading. Immensely cut down from initially 20 min(egregiously long).
Speaks:
If you look at my speaking points history I'm generally pretty generous. If you do 4 things for me I will give you 30 speaks for free!
- Ask your opponents for pronouns or just have some exchange related to that in round
- Email me your case so I can read along while you read your case (if I miss anything I can reference back or re-read during cross). Don't make excuses about why you can't. If you don't want to then just don't do it. The only exception I will make is if you show me the TOURNAMENT doesn't allow me.
- Finish your speech coherently and use like 95% of your time with legitimate substance.
- Send evidence efficiently and don't waste time in between speeches or waste time in general.
For every one missed I'll doc 1.25 speaks. If you are just mean or rude to your opponents then I'll just give an auto L with 25 even if you win on the "flow".I have no tolerance for being mean :) I will try my best to find reasons to vote against people who are borderline mean through the flow too. A respectful environment is a prerequisite to people feeling comfortable to debate! All these asks for me are EXPECTATIONS, not preferences!
SHORT I DONT WANT TO READ AN ENTIRE THING OF NONSENSE BUT I WANT TO KNOW THE JIST:
Did HS PF debate+ college parli. was okay in HS pretty good in college now.
Mostly, Tech>Truth. However, don't use tech to bully. Still subconsciously influenced by bias. Uncontrollable. Some arguments I inherently understand more.
IF IM MAKING EYE CONTACT THAT MEANS I AM CONFUSED AND DON'T KNOW WHERE TO FLOW NOT THAT I AM LISTENING INTENTLY!!! IF YOU TAKE ANYTHING AWAY TAKE THIS!!! At one point I get self-conscious if I look too much in confusion when I don't know what to flow and look down. >~<
Pf 2nd rebuttal frontlines. No New Offense FF not in summary. Policy/LD don't know extension norms thus gonna be forgiving w/ extensions.
Generally against tech being topicality, Theory, and Ks Would consider non-disingenuously for real abuse/problematic rhetoric.
Spreading can't flow fast so it's bad. Don't sound like you are drowning.
Extinction big no no. Unless topic calls for it. No daylight savings causes extinction(real round)
Make sure not same impact scenario. Don't weigh Nuke war w/ Russia against Nuke war w/ Russia on magnitude. Compare links. Talk about uniqueness.
I prefer warranted low magnitude high probability vs high magnitude low probability. Even if an argument outweighs, if it isn't extended well and I can't explain it I won't vote off it. Argument understandability is a prereq to voting on any argument for me. I have ALOT of rounds where I vote for an impact cuz it's the only one explained.
Jargon pls no. I barely know prog debate.
Don't expect me to understand afro-anthropessimism pre-post modern feminist neo liberal hauntology @400WPM.I barely understand my college lecturers at 1/4th that speed. even at normal pace without accessible wording I won't get it. 100% have not read your arg lit before. Need slow good explanation for new concepts to me aka most of arguments.
Don't assume I remember what each author said. I don't remember 1/2 of UCSD debaters in a quarter. You think I'm gonna remember aiusdbh 13 from the 1NC 45 minutes ago.
PF DEBATE
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Pls email me your cases before the start of the round.
Pls frontline in 2nd rebuttal rather than 2nd summary
I will vote off turns if not blippily read and make sense.
Pls use voters in the final focus and COLLAPSE. I'm serious about collapsing.
I... am lazy and use single-use paper plates cuz I don't like doing dishes, but also my romantic partner is in marine biology and roasts me for single use plastic... aka I can see both sides :)
POLICY DEBATE
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Don't understand "new sheets" and flowing is hard. Though i try my best. Most decision focused on 1/2 AR/NR. Better to be honest it's hard for me than lie. Sorry! I will try to be as informed as possible by the round. Pls bear with my stupidity. Know I'm trying my hardest to give a good decision.
PARLI DEBATE
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I compete in college parli. I have no clue what the norms are in HS parli. College parli is basically policy without the cards. So that is how I see parli. Pls don't try to spread it's already painful to hear in college. If it's the norm I'm fine with topicality and Counterplans. Please don't read an aff K, and if that isn't a norm yet thank god. I am open to K arguments if it isn't used to shut out opponent and outspread them with complicated jargon.
I have won 4 college parli tournaments this past year so like I feel like I know what's up with parli.
I love debates that are on topic and have relevant and easy to understand arguments that have nuance!
Longer preferences
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I am an idiot
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I'm stupid, not a humble statement. Don't let the absurd length fool you. It's a sign of insecurity, not knowledge. This is at the top for a reason. I make wrong decisions when forced to think myself. Verbally make a speech that I can nearly mimic in my RFD.
I'm not competing so don't assume I know topic-specific acronyms/words are. Common sense ideas to you aren't common sense to most people. I can't figure out push or pull doors don't think I can figure out your argument.
Debate jargon for prog is a no no. Just take the couple of extra seconds to explain. Don't assume arguments. Explain things like "fairness/education voter" and "reasonability means judge intervention" even though seems common sense explain why these are good/bad.
Fully explain all your args. The reasons why an argument is logically true beyond evidence.
Don't say extend from past speech. I already forgot that last speech bro. I have the short-term memory of a goldfish. Think of it this way, in your classes if your teacher says expanding on what was said 15 minutes ago, and doesn't somewhat reexplain there is simply confusion.
Access
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Don't use tech debate as a way to bully new debaters. Tech is meant to make debate fairer, and challenge knowledge. Instead, it's become a tool used by the privileged to win silly arguments with coach-made responses that less-resourced schools can't beat. Don't contribute to bad debate norms I will be sad.
Experience:
HS PF+ College Parli. was mid in HS (4-3 STOC). College I got better & have won tournaments. College parli is budget policy w/out cards. However, I'm mostly a topical debater. Vaguely understand/use CPs/T/Ks/Theory.
General debate
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In short, I will try to find the quickest way and clearest way to vote. If an argument is messy I'll likely vote off something way smaller that may not even outweigh. I want your last speeches to be what you want me to say in my RFD.
Tech Truth?
I am generally tech over truth with a couple of exceptions
- When tech is used as a means to exclude
- Dump low-quality args hoping for drops.
- Arguments are clipped
- Borderline false args e.g Nuke war good(low threshold for response)
Case
Please send case. Allows me to flow. Flowing helps me keep track. More likely to vote for yall. Also just good practice.
Rebuttals
Please try to signpost. By that I mean if you directly say, which response with things like " on x argument, their yth response about z we have x amount of responses. or if it's 1 response give the response.
Also, please don't say "no evidence, no warrant, no explanation" rather explain why the lack of a warrant means their argument is false and what it actually is like. Also, I am down for logical arguments. Not everything needs to be carded if it's analytical. If something is analytical like "no one wants to be nuked" and you say nO eViDenCe then there is no way I'm voting on the response.
Final speeches:
Please voters. Frame independent reasons to vote rather than line by line. go reasons why you win, and cover defense/turns on their offense.
Line by line = Line w/out the ine.
While I try to exclusively flow. Directing me on the flow can make me interpret the flow in a better way for y'all. Will focus on what I'm told to. So focus on best args.
Pls collapse. 1 good arg>3 bad arguments. Either you collapse or my mental health collapses.
Don't say "extend (author)" or "extend my response on x argument." extend what the author says or the argument itself. If you don't explain your arguments and just assume I know them I won't vote for them!
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Weighing
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I.Will.Do.Anything.I.Can.To.Not.Vote.On.Bad.Extinction.Scenarios.Within.my.Power.as.a.Judge.
Exceptions are topics that kinda rely on those ideas. Like Conflict for NATO/ great power conflict. Or climate change for PRC econ or enviro. Heavily prefer against it.
Probability weighing:
Fleshed-out arguments are rewarded. Don't go for the "risk of offense infinite magnitude extension multiply infinity." not gonna vote on that. arg of "risk of offense" means you aren't good enough to defend case. a low chance of your case to me is a 0 chance. However, the opponent needs to win probability claims.
Same/similiar impact weighing:
Make sure you aren't having exact same or similar impact to the opponent then OW on "magnitude"
Many topics have different sides same impact. Rather than weigh impacts you compare links or compare uniqueness. Uniqueness is the better route for me. 2 possible ways to deal w/ clash IMO.
1.Mostly look to Uniqueness 70% of time. Is SQUO going good or nah. If going well why fix something that isn't broken. Inversely, if things going wrong we need to take action to fix.
2. Distinguish impacts. Explain why your scenario uniquely links more. Maybe it's more specific. It affects more countries. It has bigger actors. Your link bigger than theirs. Whatever way to show e.x how your link into nuke war is better than theirs.
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Progressive Debate
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Structural Violence: Only prog argument I vibe with. Main it center of your narrative. Don't make it secondary defeats the purpose of prioritizing underprivileged if you deprioritize them by dropping arg on it.
Spreading: I can't follow it at all. I'll try to follow doc. Tell me what you cut from it. Heavily prefer not. Don't use as a way to shut out opponents. Will insta L.
Topicality:Don't read to add an extra layer. I will be sad. Don't make bad debate norms. Abusing new teams w/out resources to learn about debate in the meta sense is shameful. Only read if legit non-topical. If actually hurts ability to debate use it. Don't say "fairness/education voter" explains why. Default reasonability.
Kritik:I PROMISE I don't know your lit. I am stupid. keep it simple. Don't use area-specific lingo. If you have to have heard it before to know it don't read it. If you can't be simple w/ it that means you don't know it. Kinda troll nowadays become cancelling your opponent for "insert ism"
I have, lately, been more sympathetic to them in certain instances. I am fine with Kritiks on nuke war impacts, western construction of "terrorists," Orientalism on China impacts, Democracy promotion bad/ causes othering, AI deserving rights, Speed bad K, and tech debate bad K. Ultimately, I won't want to vote on a K that can be linked to anything and any topic. I feel that anything that is legit misunderstood and really messed up to the point where it shouldn't be "seen from both sides" is a place I would legit evaluate a Kritik.
K aff: No lol. screams "I'm not good enough to defend the topic, and I'm lazy." If you feel passionate anyway read it.
Theory:Frivolous theory will lead to AUTO L 25. Won't deal with it. Default RVIs. Minimal experience judging theory. The threshold for abuse is high. Must prove in-round abuse, not potential abuse.
MISC
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If you made it down here Idk why you wasted time reading this far lol
Disclose decision:
Yes, if tourney allows. Will try to be quick. Will try to be constructive as possible. If not being constructive lmk. Want to talk about strengths, improvement areas, the round itself, if you loss potential paths to the ballot. For winning team how to make more clear. A lot of apologizing. Pls if you have an issue bring it up w/ me directly rather than say stuff outside of round. I want to clarify and not "judge screw" as I had that as a debater I felt and ik the frustration. If you found RFD good bad you can give feedback on form.
If flight 1 goes quickly I will give feedback. If y'all troll with timing I'll just type my feedback. I assume y'all prefer to hear, just start the round ASAP.
NDCA wiki:
If you disclose that's cool and awesome! However, I'm not receptive to disclosure theory in PF. In other events, if used to bully new debaters that won't be tolerated.
Decorum:
The presentation has a subconscious effect on everyone. Will try to prevent that.
No tolerance for rude debaters. Will drop if bad enough rudeness. Don't be overly rule stigent/ talk over people/ be snarky/make too many faces. Also, will lower speaks. Be nice! Isn't hard. Will give high speaks otherwise.
IRL politics:
Pure tab judge is impossible and fake. IRL knowledge sphere is Marxism. not the "government does stuff" leftism though. Fine with being critical of America and the economy.
Speech Judge
Updated 4/20/19
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Don't mess up.
wHat Is pUbLic ForUM?
I vOtE oN CrOSs aNd sPeAkS
Here's my actual paradigm:
-I've debated PF for 2 years at Canyon Crest
-I am a tabula rasa judge, but if an argument is offensive or false, I will most likely drop it. I also will prefer arguments that aren't theory or Ks. Other than that, any argument is fine, so be creative!
-Any speaking speed is fine, but I may not catch some stuff if you spread or get close to spreading. However, Don't sacrifice clarity for speed.
-EVERYTHING in final focus must be said in summary. Have a clear RFD/voters that should be laid out in FF. Make sure to weigh.
-Road Maps, Sing Posts, Impact Calculus.
-When extending, extend claim, warrant and impact. Extend cards with the author, date, and tagline. Make sure not to extend through ink, and call out your opponents if they do this.
-I won't be flowing during cross, but I'll be paying attention. If something important is brought up, I WON'T write it down, so make sure to bring it up in your next speech.
-Call out your opponents in your speeches if they're breaking the rules, but I will probably notice. If you are breaking the rules, you will either lose or I won't like you (depending on the severity). I won't call for evidence unless there is a dispute over it or I find it important for the RFD.
-Time your own speeches and prep
-Don't take ten years to find a card. Please hurry up or you will most definitely lose speaks. Look at cards during prep, not cross.
-Higher speaks for puns and other jokes, and maybe memes. Roasting in cross is also cool, as long as its not too offensive or confusing.
-Lastly, RELAX and HAVE FUN!
Who am I?
I am your coach, Yash Gupta. I am a debater from Canyon Crest Academy Public Forum Team. I did do middle school debate at Pacific Trails debate.
I debate PF for Carmel Valley Independent
Ay yo the pizza here
Tech>truth
Speed is fine
I won't flow cross but if something important comes up say it in your speech
If you say "judge" in a speech I will literally drop you
I'll assume you guys have a positive IQ and will time yourselves
Weigh