Potomac Debate Summer Camp Session 2
2020 — Rockville, MD/US
Debate judges Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show Hidecndi: if anyone would like to bring me purple rice red bean coconut latte from yi fang with 70% sugar & less ice i may be inclined to increase your speaker points
umich '27, debated 4 years for thomas s. wootton '23 on nat circuit, 2x gtoc
tldr:
speed ok, theory eh (see below if planning on running), tech > truth
start an email chain before round starts & add me: ruthdai077@gmail.com
please label said chain "tournament name, year, round, flight, team 1 code vs team 2 code"
in round:
preflow before round
no offtime roadmaps needed, just tell me where you're starting & signpost
i heavily prefer fw be extended in every speech but i won't hold it against u if you dont
spend more time explaining wonky args
if u spread: send speech docs (put in chain--don't put a locked doc). however, even w/ a doc u need to be clear for me to flow--i wont flow off the doc and/or double-check my flow with the doc for you
if u plan to go ultra fast(but not spreading) just give me a warning right before u start
anything not frontlined in 2nd rebuttal is conceded
turns must be impacted out and implicated in rebuttal to be voted for. id also strongly strongly strongly prefer them to be weighed when introduced
i have a pretty low threshold for what i consider turns--but 10 word blips labeled as one wont be voted on
if you aren't using your opponents uniqueness for your turn, you have to introduce your own
defense is not sticky and must be implicated in every speech--i wont do it for you
*do not try to blow something up in the next speech when it wasn't implicated in the prior one--i will not evaluate it
i don't believe in uniqueness + probability + clarity of link/impact weighing but if its the only weighing i get ill evaluate it (the only time probability weighing exists is on the link level when the link chain is conceded. otherwise, it exclusively operates as defense)
comparative + meta weighing makes me happy
i default util framing in general & the squo in policy topics, otherwise, i default first (i am open to any alt presumption if this becomes a debate)
on that note, i will try my very hardest to never default; so, the less offense i see on both sides, the lower my standards for winning an argument will be (this applies exclusively to non varsity divisions)
flex prep is fine
cross:
cross goes to the flow if brought up in next speech
chill w skipping grand for a min of prep
open cross is fine
evidence:
carded warranted ev > uncarded warranted analysis > unwarranted carded ev
only will call if: you give me a reason + tell me to, for educational purposes, or just cause
i don't accept cards that aren't cut
miscut ev gets speaks dropped and is knocked off the flow
speaks:
based off strategy & speaking
humor & a chill attitude will get u far
give me a 1 page mla format letter of rec for you from any of my old partners for 30 speaks
evidence challenges:
evidence challenges must be called once the card is introduced/called for
i believe ev challenges always incorporate a level of judge intervention so i prefer not adjudicating them but if it really is that egregious of a violation--you shouldn't have to worry about not picking up my ballot
prog:
in all honesty i started off on the traditional circuit and never fully adapted to new tech and am not great at evaluating progressive. that being said, its the judges obligation to adapt so read (so long as it is inclusive) what you want, just know my best attempt at an rfd will probably not make you super happy.
theory:
if i believe there's an actual violation that endangers people in the round, the shell doesn't matter to me atp, ill just down the team
all shells need to be read in the speech directly following the violation
if you read graphic material, you MUST read a trigger warning + google form opt-out option
on that note: i don’t require tws for non graphic material but that doesn’t mean i don’t evaluate tw theory for such args
running theory just because you know your opponents don't know how to respond is pretty trashy
don't read paraphrasing overviews, just run theory atp
things i wont evaluate:
- tricks
- tko's
- 30 speaks theory
- an identity k that does not apply to u but applies to ur opponents
out of round:
i will always disclose rfd (regardless of tourney rules) and im happy to disclose speaks, just ask
postrounding and being a sore loser are not mutually exclusive, im fine with the former not the latter
if you have any questions prior to the round or after feel free to email me(preferably ask me in the room, im a very lazy typer)
*side note: debate should be fun--run whatever makes you laugh (so long as your opponents are also okay with that type of round)
I debated for four years in Public Forum at Acton-Boxborough Regional High School in Massachusetts.
General Stuff:
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I am fine with most speeds. However, I definitely prefer the round to go at a moderate pace and I will not tolerate spreading.
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I like to think that I am tech>truth. That said, there is an inherent tradeoff with my threshold for responses on ridiculous arguments.
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You do not need defense in the first summary unless the second rebuttal frontlines.
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I do not think progressive arguments (Theory, K, Breaking Speech Times/Meta, etc.) belong in PF so I will not judge those types of rounds. On the other hand, if there is some outrageous violation, warrant the issues in a speech and I will probably give some credence to it if it is true. Just don't read like a full-blown shell on me.
- I default Neg but am willing to hear warranted arguments about why I should presume the first speaking team.
Things I Like:
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Although I do not require it, I love it when teams frontline efficiently in the second rebuttal. I think it is strategic to do so and it makes for a better debate.
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I will always prefer smart analytics over unwarranted cards. If you read some nuke war scenario and your opponents question why war has never occurred it is not enough for you to just drop evidence and say it post dates. Interact with the warrants and show me why your side is stronger.
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Weighing is super important for my ballot. If you do not show me why your arguments matter more than your opponents I will not know how to vote and I might make some heinous decisions.
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I also love teams who use impact clarity well! Use it correctly, I often see this "weighing" mechanism done poorly.
- Please time each other. Keep each other accountable, don't rely on me for that.
Things I Do Not Like:
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I do not like second rebuttal offensive overviews or new contentions. I will evaluate the arguments but I will have a super low threshold for responses and your speaks will likely reflect this.
- A lot of teams think that if they frontline case then that just counts as an extension of it. I do not believe this is true. I prefer that there are explicit extensions made and I will not flow through arguments without good extensions.
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If you are blatantly racist, homophobic, sexist, etc. to either your opponents or within your argumentation, I will hand you an L and tank your speaks.
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Please be civil in crossfire (to a reasonable degree). Trust that I can recognize if someone is being abusive but also stand your ground when you feel it's appropriate.
If you have any questions please ask me before the round starts.
Hi! I debated for 3 years on the circuit for Churchill (MD) and am now a sophomore at Penn.
tl;dr
I haven't seen a PF round in 2+ years and am not updated on the norms/trends, so you should probably treat me as a flay judge.
Here are some key points:
- Please be clear, signpost, and warrant well
- Collapse and weigh comparatively in the second half
- I'm probably worse at flowing than the average flow judge, so don't go too fast or you'll lose me
- Don't extend through ink
- Be nice
- I'm really not a fan of theory/Ks and don't understand them at all, so I'd strongly prefer if you stick to substance and will probably be biased against you if you run it for no reason. Like below, if there's a real violation, just explain it plainly
Feel free to read the rest of my old paradigm if you want, but the above points are the most relevant. If you do all of that I'll try to be generous with speaks. Let me know if you have any questions before round, and have fun!
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I'd consider myself a normal flow judge, so just debate how you like.
General
- I like well-warranted and well-explained arguments. It makes it easier for me to understand and thus vote on.
- Please weigh your arguments comparatively! If you don't weigh (or its not comparative), I will have to do my own weighing, which might not turn out how you like.
- Tech > Truth, but the more ridiculous the argument the lower the threshold I have for acceptable responses to it.
- Collapse pls
- If you want me to vote on it, you should be extending it, not just saying "extend X, extend Y"
Speed
- I kinda suck at flowing, so try not to go tooooo fast. Generally, I can keep up, as long as you remain clear. If I think you're going too fast, I'll say "clear".
In Round
- Don't make new arguments in final focus.
- You should extend arguments that you want me to vote on in summary and final focus.
- Signpost
- I think it's strategic if second rebuttal frontlines responses in first rebuttal (but it's not necessary if you aren't comfortable with it)
- First summary doesn't have to extend defense (unless its frontlined in second rebuttal), but if it's important you should still extend it in summary
- "They don't provide a warrant/the impact isn't contextualized" is a sufficient response for me.
Evidence
- I think paraphrasing is okay, as long as you have a card to back it up.
- I won't call for evidence unless I think it's important to the outcome of the round or unless I am explicitly told to.
Progressive Arguments (K, Theory, etc.)
- I don't think progressive arguments are good for the direction of the PF, and I would discourage you from running one in front of me. With that being said, if you choose to read a progressive argument,
1. You should explain it very well
2. I never had much experience with it in high school, so I will probably make a decision that reflects my lack of knowledge
- If you think there is a real violation in round, I think you should just explain and warrant it like any other argument (paragraph theory), and I will be inclined to vote on it.
Finally,
don't be rude, sexist, abelist, racist, etc.
Good luck and have fun!
hi!
i'm christina (she/her) and debated for wootton pf. ask me for clarification before the round starts.
VBIPHL: Do not read progressive arguments against teams that clearly cannot engage with them in order to win. My ballot/your speaks will be reflective of your poor decision and you will be upset with the result that I input.
misc:
1. i'll evaluate any argument you can think of, however, in the case where the safety of a debater is compromised in the room (be it any -ist argument or a lack of TW on a sensitive topic) i will intervene. tab has the option to specify pronouns for a reason, misgendering is not ok.
2. speed is ok but sacrificing clarity is not ok.
3. probably won't call for ev, imo a bit interventionist unless someone explicitly asks me to and the round is unresolvable.
4. i have a very bad poker face so if i dont/do like something you'll know.
5. i am most receptive to substance and i will do my best to judge as technically as i can.
round:
1. second rebuttal must frontline turns - conceded turns/contentions in rebuttal have 100% strength of link.
2. DAs/ADVs/offensive OVs are fine in second rebuttal to an extent but i have a higher threshold for contextualization/warranting/weighing/etc.
3. DLs must be conceded in the following speech (either 2nd rebuttal or 1st summary) but also must be explained.
4. defense is not sticky 4 first summary.
5. i appreciate good extensions. i do not care about card names. extend warrants with case.
weighing:
1. weighing ideally should start in rebuttal. i'm not evaluating new weighing in final focus, including first final.
2. probability impact weighing doesn't exist.
3. metaweigh/comparative weighing -- if there is none i'll probably prioritize pre-reqs/link-ins/co-ops -- if there is none of that i will just count how many weighing mechanisms there are.
prog:
i will do my best to judge to your standards. i dislike progressive debate so please only read it if there is justifiable abuse in the round (paraphrasing/disclosure dont count).
1. general defaults (no RVIs, CI > reasonability, drop arg over debater, only if teams don't tell me what to do).
2. do not read theory against teams who clearly cannot engage with it (novices) i can tell and my ballot/your speaks will reflect that >:(.
4. little to no exp w K's, therefore K lit needs to be accessible -- you should also be extending K's/shells more rigorously than case bc it may be harder for me/others to grasp initially (especially if they are not topical).
5. no tricks.
i'm most receptive to substance but i'll do my best to evaluate whatever you read.
debate in a way that makes you happy and comfortable, post-rounding is fine, good luck!
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