conflicts: groves high school (class of 2019), wayne state university (class of 2023, secondary ed major w/ minors in public health & gender, sexuality, and women's studies), detroit country day high school

always put me on the email chain! Literally always! if you ask i will assume you haven't read this! legit always put me on the email chain! lukebagdondebate@gmail.com

pronouns: they/them.

the abridged version:

• do you, and do it well

• don't cheat in ways that require me to intervene

• don't misgender me, or your competitors

• do not assume i am going to vote for you because you say my name a lot

some general stuff:

the more and more i do debate the less i care about what's put in front of me. when i first started debating, i cared very deeply about norms, the resolution, all that jazz. now, if you're willing to read it i'm willing to judge it. i'd rather see an in depth debate with a lot of offense and clash than anything else, and i don't care whether you do that on a T flow vs. a k aff or a cap flow vs. a policy aff.

my least favorite word in the english language (of which is not a slur) is the word "basically." i would rather listen to everyone for the rest of time describe everything as "moist" than listen to you say the word "basically." i've hated this word for years, do not use it. make of that what you will.

it should be said i at one point read a parody aff that involved my partner and i roleplaying as doctor/patient during the 1ac. i care exceedingly little what you want to do with your 8 minute constructive, 3 minute cx, and 5 minute rebuttals - but those speech times are non-negotiable (unless the tournament says otherwise). play a game, eat a salad, ask me about my cat(s), color a picture, read some evidence; but do it within the constraint of a timer.

(this "time fetish" is less of a "respect my time" thing and more of a "i need to know when i can tell tab who i voted for" thing. i take a lot of pride in getting my decision in before repko, and i wish to continue that streak.)

stuff about me as a judge:

i do not follow along in the speech doc. i try not to look at cards. be clear, be concise, be cool. debate is first and foremost a communicative activity. i will only read y'alls ev if there is serious contention, or you tell me to. i HATE DOING THIS, and this very often does not go how people think it will.

if you say "insert re-highlighting" instead of reading the re-highlighting i WILL consider that argument uncarded

bolded for emphasis: people are also saying they can 'insert a caselist' for T flows. this is not a thing. and i will not consider them part of the debate if this occurs.

i do not play poker both because i am terrible at math and because i have a hard time concealing my emotions. i do have pretty bad rbf, but i still think you should look at me to tell what i'm thinking of your speeches/cx.

speaker points:

Misgendering is bad and a voting issue (at the very least I will give you exceptionally low speaks). due to my gender identity i am hyper aware of gender (im)balances in debate. stop being sexist/transphobic jerks, y'all. it's not that hard. additionally, don't be racist. don't be sexist. don't be ableist. don't be a bad person.

Assigning speaker points comes down to: are you memorable? are you funny? are you a bad person? Did you keep my flow neat? How did you use cross?

I usually give in the 28.2-29.9 range, for reference.

ethics violations:

i consider ethics violations clipping, evidence fabrication/omission of paragraphs between the beginning and end of the card, and violence (e.g. calling Black people the n word as a non-Black person, refusing to use correct pronouns).

for clipping: a recording must be presented if a debater brings forth the challenge. if i notice it but no one brings it up, your speaker points will suffer greatly.

for evidence miscutting (this is NOT power tagging): after a debater brings it forward the round will stop. if the evidence is miscut, the team who miscut the evidence will lose with lowest speaker points possible. if the evidence is not miscut, the team who brought forth the violation will lose with the lowest speaker points possible. i will not entertain a debate on the undebatable.

for violence: i will stop the debate and the offender will receive the lowest speaker points possible and will lose. the person who is on the receiving end of the violence is not expected to give input. if you misgender me i will not stop the debate, but your speaker points will suffer.

one of these, because i love getting caught in the hype

brad hombres ------------------------------------X--banana nut brad

generic disad w/ well developed links/uq------X------------------------------------ thing you cut 30 mins before the round that you claim is a disad

read a plan--------------------X---------------------don't read a plan

case turns--X----------------------------------------generic defense

t not fw--------------X-------------------------------fw not t

"basically"-------------------------------------------X-just explaining the argument

truth over tech------------------X--------------------tech over truth

being nice-X------------------------------------------being not nice

piper meloche--------------------X--------------------brad meloche

'can i take prep'----------------------------------------X-just taking prep

explaining the alt------X--------------------------------assuming i know what buzzwords mean

process cps are cheating--------------------------X-------sometimes cheating is good

fairness--------------------------------X----------------literally any other fw impact besides iteration

impact turn-X--------------------------------------------non impact turn

fw as an impact turn------X--------------------------------fw as a procedural

green highlighting-X----------------------------------------any other color

rep---------------------------X----------------i don't know who you are and frankly i don't care to find out

asking if everyone is ready -X-----------------------------------asking if anyone isn't ready

jeff miller --------------------------------------X--- abby schirmer

PUBLIC FORUM SPECIFIC THINGS:

i find myself judging this a lot more than any other activity, and therefore have a LOT of opinions.

• time yourself. this includes prep. i'm not your mom, and i don't plan on doing it for you. the term "running prep" is becoming very popular, and i don't know what that means. just take prep.
• don't call me judge. "what should we refer to you as?" nothing! i don't know who is teaching y'all to catch judges' attentions by referring to us directly, but it's horrible, doesn't work, annoys all of us, and wastes precious time. you should be grabbing my attention in other ways: tone, argumentation, flowability, humor, sarcasm, lighting something on fire (please do not actually do this). call me by my first name (luke) if you have to, but know if you overuse it, it has the exact same affect as calling me "judge."
• PLEASE don't assume i know community norms, and saying things like "this is a community norm" doesn't automatically give you that dub. i entered PF during covid, and have a very strong policy background. this influences how i view things like disclosure or paraphrase theory.
• even more so than in policy, "post-rounding" me after a decision is incredibly common. you're allowed to fight with me all you want. just know it doesn't change my ballot, and certainly won't change it the next time around.
• i will never understand this asking for evidence after speeches. why aren't we just sending speech docs? judges are on a very strict schedule, and watching y'all spend five minutes sending evidence is both annoying and time consuming - bolding, because i continue to not get and, honestly? actively hate it when everyone spend 5-10 minutes after each speech exchanging evidence. just sent the whole speech. i don't get why this isn't the norm
• i'm fine with speed and 'unconventional arguments.' in fact, i'm probably better for them because i've found PF aff/neg contentions to be vague and poorly cut.
• PFers have a tendency to call things that aren't turns "turns." it's very odd to me. please don't do it.
• i'm not going to delay the round so you can preflow. idk who told y'all you can do that but they're wrong
• if you are using ev sending time to argue, i will interrupt you and make you start and/or i will tank your speaks. stop doing this.
• i'm very split on the idea of trigger warnings. i don't think they're necessary for non-in-depth/graphic discussions of a topic (Thing Exists and Is Bad, for example, is not an in-depth discussion in my eyes). i'm fine with trigger warning theory as an argument as long as you understand it's not an automatic W.
• flex prep is at best annoying and at worst cheating. if you start flex prepping i will yell at you and doc your speaker points.
• PLEASE READ THIS IF YOU WANT TO READ THEORY:I hear some kind of theory (mostly disclosure) at least once a tournament. I usually end up voting for theory not because the theory is done well, but because the other team does not answer it properly. I do like theory an unfortunate amount, but I would prefer to watch a good "substance" debate than a poor theory debate

LINCOLN DOUGLAS SPECIFIC THINGS:

• please read my policy and pf paradigms. they have important information about me and my judging

• of all the speech activities, i know about lincoln douglas the least. this can either be to your advantage or your detriment

• apparently theory matters to a lot of y'all a lot more in this activity than in policy. i got a high threshold for voting on any sort of theory that isn't condo, and even then you're in for the uphill battle of the century. i like theory debates generally, but watching LDers run theory like RVIs has killed my confidence in LD theory debate.

• 'i'm gonna take X minutes of prep' isn't needed. just say you're taking prep and take prep. i'll never understand LD or PF judges who act as if they are parents and y'all are 5 year olds asking for cookies after dinner; if you can figure out how tabroom works and how to unmute yourself, i'm pretty sure you can time your own prep.

• going fast does not mean you are good at debate, please don't rely on speed for ethos

• i hate disclosure theory and will prob vote neg 99.9% of the time (the .001% is for new affs or particularly bad answers). just put your stuff on the wiki, i genuinely don't understand why this is a debate to be had. just disclose. what year are you people living in.

things i don't care about:

- whether you keep your camera on or off (if you wanna lose free speaker points, that's up to you)

• speed. however, you should never be prioritizing speed over clarity.

hidden at the bottom: if you read the kato k and call it the "oppenheimer k" in the roadmap for the whole round i will give you a 30

neda-specific:

please use all your time. my bar for civility is much lower than most neda judges, so make of that what you will. please also use evidence.

(Updated 1/13/25)

Chain Email

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Darcell Brown He/Him

Operations Director - Detroit Urban Debate League

Wayne State University Alum '22 (2020 NDT Qualifier)

My debate background in high school and college consisted of both policy strategies as well as Kritikal Performance & Structural K's (Antiblackness/Cap/Securitization)

-- Top Level --

I don't care how you choose to present/perform/introduce your arguments nor do I have a bias toward any particular type of argumentation. Just read your best arguments and give an impact that I can vote on. I'm like 60/40 tech over truth. I default to my flow but can be persuaded by pathos/performance in the debate to weigh my decision. I'll vote on presumption if persuaded the aff doesn't solve anything. I heavily prefer clarity over speed but can keep up with a fast pace as long as you're still coherent. I'll vote on theory args but am not the person you want for 2NR/2AR theory throwdowns.

-- Aff Stuff --

- On the policy end of the spectrum, I don't have too many comments for the aff besides the generic ones. Have an internal link to your harms and if you're gonna go util v vtl/deontology stuff then go all in or go home. On the Kritikal side, I'm down for whatever and will vote on rejections of the topic if there's an impacted reason as to why engagement in the context of the resolution is bad as well as Kritkal interps of the topic. Be clear about what your argument is early on. It serves better to be straight forward with your claims with me instead of using a ton of jargon.

-- Neg Stuff --

- I'm fine with you reading whatever on the neg however you need to engage the aff. FW has to have a TVA otherwise I default aff. THE TVA DOES NOT SERVE AS OFFENSE FOR ME BUT IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHY YOUR OFFENSE IS APPLICABE TO THE AFF! I rarely vote on fairness as an impact. There needs to be a reason why normative debate rules are good and what the off does that creates an inability for engagement with those good components of the topic/rez, not just "there are rules so vote neg". Not a fan of reading 5+ off and seeing what sticks kind of strategies especially in college debate. Any other questions you can ask me before the round.

Hello!

I am an attorney and former debater. I competed in Policy debate for about 4 years in undergrad for Wayne State.

My paradigm is below:

I'm pretty open to most arguments, but don't assume I always know what you're talking about. I tend to lean more critical in debate, although I have a pretty solid understanding of formal policy. I'll vote for whoever gives the most reasonable, logical and clear explanation of the round for me. Watch my face and my hands. If you're saying something irrelevant, you can usually tell by my face. I'll stop flowing if you're being repetitive, or if I feel you've done enough to win this argument. Don't take yourself too seriously, you're on the high school debate team, there is life outside of this.

T: I've never voted for T on the neg, maybe someone will change that, but you're going to have to make a really really really REALLY good case why I should.

FW: Not much of a framework debater at all, I usually always engage with whatever the out of bounds aff is with some sort of counter K or another off case position. I like super critical affs, I think you should probably learn to engage with the philosophies behind them on some level outside of the debate tech. I will listen to your FW args but you're going to have to make a very good case in order to win in front of me against a super critical aff. Critical affs: make logical arguments here, explain to me what's going on and take a chance to talk about your aff.

CP: I like counterplans, slow down when you read the CP plan text and probably try to solve the aff. You need a net benefit and you need to thoroughly explain it to me. Aff: tell me why your perm works, don't just say "perm".

K: I love the K, I'm open to most K's unless they're just totally unreasonable. I have a degree in Philosophy, so I read lot of this stuff for my course work and I very much enjoy it. To win on this with me you'll need a serious link and a serious explanation, you'll need some sort of impact framing, and you'll need to explain the K evidence and not just read tags. Aff: explain the perm if you're going to for it, don't just say, "perm".

DA: You need a solid link with an explanation, not just some random card tag. I like a lot of impact calc here, this is where you will win most of the time. Not a fan of the politics DA at all, but I'll listen to it, you should very thoroughly explain to me the internal link chain.

Getting my PhD at Wayne State University in communication studies. Competed at Wayne State, qualified to the NDT twice. Assistant coach for West Bloomfield High School’s public forum and IE team.

Include me on emails chains please: DouglasAHusic@gmail.com

I flow on paper, please give me pen time. Start slower and settle into top speed instead of missing parts early on. I care about clarity more than who reads a few more cards. CX is a speech, I flow it in every debate format. I rarely follow along with docs.

Non-important old man yelling at cloud moment: The 1ac is an opportunity for free speaker points and sets the tone for the debate, a lot of people sound like they don't practice reading it.

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Whoever controls the framing of how to evaluate offense in a debate generally wins my ballot. This is universally true for all argument styles and debate formats. I am very flow dependent. Specifics listed below, but absolute defense is a hard sell absent drops, strategic concessions, or the argument was poorly constructed to begin with.

Debate is a persuasive and communicative activity first and foremost driven by student research. As a debater research was my favorite part of the activity so I certainly appreciate quality evidence production on unique and different arguments. Communication surrounding the importance of evidence is most relevant to how I evaluate it at the end of the debate. A great card that is undersold and not explained and applied may get my appreciation when you bring it to my attention in the post-round, but absent you directing me to the significance of that evidence or why I need to read it won't be important to my ballot. If it’s not on my flow, it doesn’t register for my decision, and, if the warrant is on my flow and uncontested, it won’t matter if the evidence supporting it is weak. I'm extremely uncomfortable with the lengths many of my peers turn to the docs to verify claims that in my mind are just not being debated. If your arguing on the line by line in no way questions the other team's characterization of evidence, I will never go on a fact finding mission.

I expect debater's to make relevant issues on evidence known in the debate.

Debater's should answer arguments.

You don't get to walk-back win conditions you establish that are conceded.

Thoughts on framework:

Full transparency I went for this argument for the majority of my career as a debater as a one-off position, and can be compelled that there should be some limit on the topic for the purpose of predictable negative ground. So take that for what you will.

However, I am also highly sympathetic given my personal pedagogical and research interests as a scholar of alternative interpretations of the resolution for the purposes of interdisciplinary/undisciplined debates. Teams that have a well thought out counter interpretation and vision for what their model of debate looks like are often in a strategically good place for my ballot. In my mind a counter interpretation provides a useful avenue for resolving both sides offense and is often a place where I wish the negative invested more time in the block and 2nr.

That being said, I have been persuaded by affirmative teams who impact turn framework without a counter interpretation. Iterations of this argument which have been persuasive to me in the past include critiques of predictability as a means to actualize clash, critiques of fiats epistemic centrality to clash/fairness/education, arguments which emphasize styles of play over notions of fairness for the game, as well as impact turning the rhetorical performance of framework.

A frequent line in decisions I vote aff on framework, "I think the negative is winning a link on limits explosion, but has underdeveloped the internal link between limits to clash/fairness/epistemic skills as an impact, and furthermore that impact's relationship to the way the aff has framed insert X DA or X impact from the 2ac overview on case is never once articulated". I'm a big believer in if you want to say T/framework is engagement you should actually engage the language and impacts the aff has presented, I will not fill in these connections for you because you say "praxis or debate is key to activism".

Teams over-emphasize the TVA without fully developing the argument. A core dilemma for the negative in round's I judge is the TVA's interaction with affirmative themes, performances, and theories remain superficial and surface level at best. Even when a great piece of evidence is read by the negative, it is an error in execution for the negative to rely on the judge to resolve these connections. My threshold for the TVA being "sufficient" is often higher then my peers. Given the value of the TVA as a way to resolve affirmative offense it is a spot where I think the negative must dig deep(ala Jeff Probst from Survivor) to put themselves ahead in a debate. There are many ways the negative can do this effectively, but all require a more thorough incorporation of the TVA from the onset of your strategy. It's bad form and a missed opportunity when the negative refuses to give an example/or doesn't know of a TVA in C-X of the 1nc. I'm a believer that there is a benefit in the negative block introducing other TVAs in the negative block, The 2nc should tie TVA's to performances, impact arguments, and theories of the 1ac. Saying you could have talked about X thing as a performance instead often falls flat. Do research pre-round or pre-tournament into the artefacts of the 1ac, be creative, you can incorporate them I believe in you.

I am also not a particularly good judge for negative impact explanations which rely on the assumption that the values of research/clash/fairness/iteration are inherent/exclusive benefits of a limited model. The negative often debates in front of me operating from the assumption the aff will win none of their offense or has abandoned these values in their entirety, this is both a bad move and often just a blatant mischaracterization of aff debating. An example with iterative testing. A premise which is hard to dislodge me from: all research is iterative, full-stop. Even when the aff has no counter interpretation, their research practices and argumentative styles are iterative because they build upon previously written research and arguments. This means arguments like iterative testing require more specificity in their explanation. The framing of "Only the negative model allows room for teams to refine arguments to third and fourth level" often rings hollow because it is more descriptive of the strategic incentives to develop arguments over the course of a season (which likely exist in any research activity), and not describe the actual benefit of the style of iteration of your model. A more persuasive iteration impact to me focuses on the question of quality and utility of each models style of iteration, tending more to questions like: is there an insurgent/epistemic benefit to maximizing iteration of state based politics vs negative critique? Instead of saying "the aff always goes for the perm in K v K debates," delve into questions of how affirmative models might distort the capaciousness of K v K debate? Or shutdown debates that are meaningful in the literature through standards and practices of debate's offense/defense paradigm? Are there moments where the aff contradicts their model or counter interp performatively? What is the significance of these contradictions? Are there potentially negative effects of the aff model for subjectivity? All of this is really my way of pleading with you burn the blocks of your predecessor, make some new arguments, read a book, do something.

Creativity and negative argument development on framework has plateaued.

You all sound the same.

I will be extremely frustrated if you opt to go for framework over any argument that is clearly well-developed and clashes with the aff that they blow off. There are many rounds where the 2nr decision to go for framework shocks me given 1ar coverage. Don't include A+ material if you are not prepared to go for it.

K’s vs Policy teams:

I’m a fan. I like when there is a lot of interaction with the case. I'm an ok judge for specific philosophical criticisms of the plan. I'm a substantially worse judge for "you defend [use] the state." The alternative tends to be the focus of my decision (is it competitive, what does it do to resolve the links, etc). I'm a pragmatist at heart, I believe in real-world solutions to problems and I'm often persuaded that we ought to make the world a better place. How your alternative deals with affirmative attacks of this genre matters a lot to me. I've voted for more pessimistic or alt-less Ks, but, again, mostly due to technical errors by the affirmative. I find myself caring less about alternative solvency when the negative team has spent time proving to me that the aff doesn’t solve their impacts either.

Aff teams are most successful when they have a clear approach to the theme of the negatives K from the 1ac. Either be the impact turn alt doesn’t solve team --- or be the link turn plus perm team --- wishy washiness just gets the aff into more trouble then its worth often allowing the negative a lot of narrative control on what the aff is or isn’t about.

Unless told specifically otherwise I assume that life is preferable to death. The onus is on you to prove that a world with no value to life/social death is worse than being biologically dead.

I am skeptical of the pedagogical value of frameworks/roles of the ballot/roles of the judge that don’t allow the affirmative to weigh the benefits of hypothetical enactment of the plan against the K. You're better served making arguments which elevate the importance of the impacts you've described and undercutting the ability of the aff to resolve their own. I'm totally open to disproving the affirmative's model of predictions - I just think you have to do the work to have my skepticism outweigh their narrative. I don't think its a particularly hard sell for me when the work is done. But I rarely see teams engage the case enough to decrease risk.

I tend to give the aff A LOT of leeway in answering floating PIKs, In my experience, these debates work out much better for the negative when they are transparent about what the alternative is and just justify their alternative doing part of the plan from the get go

DAs:

Links control the direction of the DA in my mind absent some explanation to the counter in the debate

You should invest neg block time into the link story (unless it's impact turned). A compelling link argument is very powerful, and can cover holes in your evidence. "Impact turns the case" is a bit overrated, because it normally lacks uniqueness. Not making the arg is a mistake, but banking on it can also be a mistake.

I miss straight impact turning and link turning strategies from aff teams.

Theory:

theory arguments that aren't some variation of “conditionality bad” aren't reasons to reject the team. That being said, I don't understand why teams don't press harder against obviously abusive CPs/alternatives (uniform 50 state fiat, consult cps, utopian alts, floating piks). Performative contradictions matter less to me in the 1nc especially if they’re like a reps K (stuff like the Econ DA and Cap is more suspect). Performative contradictions carried through as a position in the block grinds my gears and should be talked about more. Theory might not be a reason to reject the team, but it's not a tough sell to win that these arguments shouldn't be allowed. If the 2NR advocates a K or CP I will not default to comparing the plan to the status quo absent an argument telling me to.

New affs bad as a policy argument is definitely not a reason to reject the team and is also not a justification for the neg to get unlimited conditionality (something I've been hearing people say).

Topicality/Procedurals:

By default, I view topicality through the lens of competing interpretations, but I could certainly be persuaded to do something else. Specification arguments that are not based in the resolution or that don't have strong literature proving their relevance are rarely a reason to vote neg. I will say though lack of specification often annoys me on both sides have a debate, cut some offense, defend something please. It is very unlikely that I could be persuaded that theory outweighs topicality. Policy teams don’t get a pass on T just because K teams choose not to be topical. Plan texts should be somewhat well thought out. If the aff tries to play grammar magic and accidentally makes their plan text "not a thing" I'm not going to lose any sleep after voting on presumption/very low solvency.

Points - My average point scale is consistently 28.2-29.5. Points below 27.5 are reserved for "epic fails" in argumentation or extreme offensiveness (I'm talking racial slurs, not light trash talking/mocking - I love that) and points above 29.5 are reserved for absolutely awesome speeches. I cannot see myself going below 26.5 absent some extraordinary circumstances that I cannot imagine. All that being said, they are completely arbitrary and entirely contextual. Things that influence my points: 30% strategy, 60% execution, 10% style.

Cheating - I won't usually initiate clipping/ethics challenges, mostly because I don't usually follow along with speech docs. but if i notice it i reserve the right to call you out when especially egregious If you decide to initiate one, you have to stake the round on it. Unless the tournament publishes specific rules on what kind of points I should award in this situation, I will assign the lowest speaks possible to the loser of the ethics challenge and ask the tournament to assign points to the winner based on their average speaks.

Ethics challenges brought up pertaining to fabrication or out of context evidence submitted into a round end the debate for me. If it is determined that the ev is fabricated or meaningfully out of context then the team who introduced the evidence receives a loss and the low end of my point scale.

Policy Debate Judge (Novice)

Suki Johal: Social Studies Lead & Debate Coach

Debate should be educational and display critical thinking. Understand your argument so that it can be explained clearly and not just through the cards/evidence that you’re reading. Persuading me with a well thought out argument whose benefits outweigh the opposing team is how to win. Frame your argument well in rebuttals. Be clear on why your side’s argument is better than the opposing side. Slow down on the tags. If you spread through them and I can't flow them, this can be harmful to your speaks and the overall round. Any CP used must solve the harms and must be extended throughout the debate.

she/her

Hi everyone,

To give you some background information about me, I debated in high school, at the University of Michigan, and coach for the NAUDL through college until now.

I tend to side in the direction of policy arguments, as that's how I debated. You're welcome to run critical or performance based arguments, but understand that I may need some things explained more thoroughly. Clarity over speed. Cheap shots in the round (9 perm arguments on the DA) will affect your speaker points. I'd prefer if you kept your own time.

As far as PF arguments go, I'm heavily influenced by comparative impact comparison, including the warrants in each of your impacts. In each of the speeches, I'm looking for weighing, clash ("they say we say"), and in depth debate about the warrants in cards. I am open-minded when it comes to "critique" type cases, and want to see a healthy framework debate in support of your side. I prefer specificity and detailed road maps. That's a great way to impress me.

Good luck! Happy debating!

Tag team

I am ok with it as long as you are not talking over your partner just have fun over cx

Email

Eleenlaham@gmail.com

important info about me

1) i like road maps before each speech

2) spreading is ok as long you slow down on the tag lines

3) be clear

4) be respectful if not there will be a loss in speaker point

T debates

1) i like topicality if it makes sense or explained well

2) i rather have clash then just definitions

K debates

I am fine with critiques as long as framework is explained i like to have clash so pick the best arguments . Tell me the world of the alt make is a story that makes sense . i enjoy comparing of evidence. I love a good k tho .

Other

Overall i am fine with anything as long as you are clear and convince me why i should vote for you don't just talk for no reason and make no sense .

Email: JonahLipman03@gmail.com

Groves High School Class of 2021

Oakland University Class of 2024

Speed is great just let me actually hear the tags clearly so I can flow what you're saying

Although I tend to go with tech over truth it's not my favorite thing to vote on, I'd rather whatever you're trying to say make sense than have you make an argument based in a fantasy land where China is an urban utopia.

NEG:

DA's: If you wanna win on the DA you better bring a mutually exclusive CP with it if you don't you need framing, if neither then you can't grab my ballot. Also link stories that actually make sense are appreciated.

CP's: Either have an internal net benefit, or a DA otherwise you will lose to the perm (Unless you somehow solve better, at that point it’s really on the Aff)

K's: I'm not gonna do the leg work for you, you're gonna have to present it well enough to actually show me you know what you're talking about.

FW: If you wanna read a K know framework easy as that

T’s: I tend to roll Aff here, you better have a good reason to go for a T if you you go for a T (IE: they didn’t cover it at all)

AFF:

Policy Affs: I'm cool voting on anything as long as it make sense to me, so be prepared to explain it well, I'm not gonna do the work for you.

K Affs: If you wanna read a K aff be sure to have a FW debate because I usually skew pretty neg on that issue if there isn't much ground for them.

Debated all 4 years in highschool mans did some debate at MSU I prefer policy options but if you decide to run a k just explain to me how the alt can solve and how the k is better than the aff I vote on topicality especially if it was dropped I’m really a laid back judge as long as everyone is having fun I think the round was successful

I'm healed now run it all back

Please put me on the e-mail chain: peanutdebater@gmail.com

**Highschool peeps: I've been told by my coach friends, my debaters, and students I've judged that I come off mean in RFDs because of how blunt I am. I don't mean to be rude or anything like that but if that seems like I am, it's most likely not you.

Background

Greetings Comrades, I debated four years of varsity debate in high school at East Kentwood competing nationally and then debated for five years at Wayne State. Followed by two years as a grad assistant at Baylor. I have beenalmost exclusively a K debater. Some of the areas include anti-blackness, settler colonialism, cap, Edelman, and Chicanx arguments but I also have read and coached policy arguments so throw em at me. (Random impact turns like bootlicking China).

The Topic:

College: Oh wow nukes can't wait to hear all the same impacts from the last five years.

High School: BIG MOOONEY

In round:

Evidence sharing and disclosure is good. Do it.

As of this moment I am not evaluating anything out of round unless I see it or you have physical proof (screenshot, recording) that your opponents did something violent messed up etc. I'm not gonna play detective again nor am I going to make value judgements on peoples sincerity or honesty.

Tag teaming is okay but I'd rather it kept to a minimum or zero.

Did you read a? Did you skip b? What cards did you read? Are cross ex questions I will enforce that time on a one judge panel. Don't like it? Get good at flowing, sorry but I'm not sorry, like at all.

Don't be oppressive or violent in the round, don't say that mess we are too old for that. If you do I'll let the other team roast you in their speech if they want to dunk and gain speaker points, if they don't take the opportunity to do it I will do it post round including lower speaks and an L.

I've noticed now more that I am an expressive judge so you will often know how I feel about something in the debate. So do with that as you will.

I've started to hate large overviews because honestly most of that work can/should be done on the line by line portion of the debate. I am also personally fine with the 1AR or block foregoing an overview and just tear up the opponents arguments directly.

More hostility in debate. Like why are we treating bad or silly arguments and the people that run them as serious. This isn't like be mean and call people names, but like you just called their epistemology racist and you're friends or cordial with someone reading that racist stuff? That's weird... Enter the room with that mamba mentality, that's all.

***Online Debates. I would love and prefer your cameras on at all times as I think it checks back cheating, helps me see you and allows you to use non-verbal's to persuade me and absent that build a sense of community and friendship :). If you can't or it's important to your argument and/or have another reason for not using a camera I get it, just my preference.

Args

If you have a fringe argument that some deem as silly, funny, goofy, weird, and/or obscure read that ish I like weird impact turns and all kinds of funky DAs. Spark, rouge AI, aliens, or whatever have fun.

I think post-rounding is silly because debate is communicative and if you failed to articulate your round winning argument then I’m sorry but I’m not going to go crying to tab changing the result. But waste our time if you really feel that way I won't think about the round ever again likely so no clue what you want to be the result of it. I've only had this problem once twice thrice so let's keep it that way.

If I wanted to hear just the truth I'd go to therapy. In other words the tech on the flow matters

Perms need a deeper explanation than you just rambling off four perms in hopes that the neg drops one it likely won't be developed enough by the 1AR/2AR to get my ballot

Aff

Aff has the burden of proof, prove a change is needed or what you do is the change + is good. Neg has the burden of rejoinder respond any way you want. Lots of times I feel that I vote neg because I lose sight of what the aff does as the 1AC slowly decomposes into nothing-ness at the end of the round. Explain what your aff does, why you are doing it, and how. Neg people don’t let affs shine light on their arguments and you have a hot shot at getting a win or a presumption ballot at the least.

T

First slow down on the violation, standards, and voters people blaze through it at top speed please relax let me flow it, damn. I feel like well done policy affs vs. T debates are some of my favorite but also could be really really generic and mid debates. So don't be boring. The impact level needs to come down to what specific abuse or education loss happened not something abstract.

FW

Borrowing from Pirates of the Caribbean, "The [Resolution] is more what you call guidelines, than actual rules."

Aff teams should prove a reasonable way, form, and or model of engagement or have significant impact turns to the neg arguments, I'm not convinced by some generic bs like "policy bad" we can do better y'all. Neg teams not gonna hold you IDGAF about fairness in the abstract. You need to prove the specific abuse in the round not just some lofty fairness claims. You need to contextualize your offense to the specific aff you debate and if you can do that you'll most likely be good absent something external in the round.

K Affs

Rez connection is appreciated and desired although not mandatory ig, please make sure you have thought through why you have completely rejected it. If you are just gonna say debate bad but have no other juice aside from that why we here?

Theory

So I've come around and like a good theory debate so go for it. I'm most open to disclosure theory, condo in a world of 4+ off (i.e. time skew claims and ability to generate offense on the net benefits). I also will flow on paper so like depth over breath for me. Y'all really need to levy perf-con against teams that read Ks and then have some policy defense/args. In a world of two perf con policy CPs I'll lean more neg flex but in a world of K v Policy stuff it shows bad K debating and I lean aff.

D.A.’s

TBH not a fan of most politics DAs because they seem boring and repetitive. If I had a dollar for every time something was supposed to shift a vote or election I would have more money than Bezos so you either need really good specific link evidence or you should read something else. If you decide to read a new disad in the block make sure you have a warrant as to why you did.

CP’s

Make sure you outline the net benefit pretty please? However, how much fiat the teams want to grant the CP will be up to y’all. I love a tricky PIC but don't love 4 plank long counterplans.

The K

Real world impacts are good and are grounded in more reality thus I feel are easier to believe than most. In addition to the arguments I mentioned in my background I dappled with a broad range of other arguments but that does not mean I'm neck deep in all the literature of everything so explain. Going for alt? Explain how it solves the links. No alt? Fine K’s can also function as disads without alts and be a reason to not do the aff but you will have to win how the aff increases said bad thing not just they use the state. In general I think the state link is probably the weak “link” of k links, see what I did there ;). I’d rather you contextualize your argument to the aff. Or to win the K you need a good FW/epistemology connection so make sure to have that if you aren't going the material route.

Ummmm... why ain't we fiating alts around here we really letting the policy crew have a monopoly on the tools of imagination?

**HS in particular: Please don’t be like “He’s a K debater so reading the K is how we win” If you would like feedback I can probably provide that for you as an educational opportunity but don’t read it just for the sake of it. I don’t like buns K debates and if you think you have that FW or DA fire instead just read that.

my pronouns are decaffeinated negro so if you're non-black just don't refer to me at all.

I don't care about whatever you do in the debate, just do it well and don't be racist or problematic.

I evaluate the debate based on the flow, not my personal beliefs.

open crossex is fine, I don't care. don't over dominate your teammates in crossex though or butt in during every speech to correct them or put in your 2 cents. yall have prep for a reason.

please include a trigger warning before the round if what you will be discussing will include references of sexual violence, or refrain from explicitly discussing sexual violence if possible. if it is the crux of your strategy PLEASE let me know so I can prepare myself- certain things can be very triggering for me when it comes to that so please be considerate :)

it may not look like it but im a huge nerd. I understand the basis of most kritiks ranging from high theory ivory tower white people shit like Baudrillard and nietzche to the og's frank wilderson and Tiffany lethabo king so don't worry about spoon feeding me the epistemological basis of your k, just flesh it out and contextualize it to the debate or whatever you're doing to include it into the round. I have a soft spot for antiblackness but don't let that affect your strategy because if you decide to run an afropess k against a typical policy shell and it aint executed well or you're misarticulating the theory I will call you out at the end of the debate, especially if you are a non-black debater running antiblackness strats. I'll call you out anyways if you're misarticulating any type of k.

trying to win a ballot at the expensive of sadistically exploring the etymology of blackness and black flesh is very ghetto so don't try it.

traditional policy strats are cool too, i don't discriminate. however if it becomes a round of just cards v cards and who can stroke their overinflated ego the most with spreading and evidence I will become very bored and that's not a debate, that's y'all just trying to ego academically flex while sounding like a bunch of geeks who don't know what they're talking about. let there be actual clash on the flow please and contextualize y'alls DA's and internal link stories on the other team's arguments. I value quality debate over a competition of who can read the most cards.

I cannot stress this enough. signpost when you are switching flows. organization is very important both for yourselves and the judge.

I am more than happy to answer any questions of any kind before or after the debate whether it be about strategy or content so don't be shy to reach out via email or just talking to me.

throw me on the email chain kiararoumayah.roumayah@gmail.com

I don't care how fast you speak either, just make sure that you're clear. I will not flow what it is blatantly incomprehensible because that is not fair for the other team. if you're unclear I will not call it out unless it's due to technical difficulties.

also, don't disrespect your teammates and opponents. there's a fine line between being an aggressive debater and just being an asshole while using debate as a medium of your expression.

some side notes about me:

I currently attend and debate for Wayne State University in Detroit. I debated in the DUDL (Detroit urban debate league) since I was a freshman in high school.

If you use slurs (i.e. a racial or homophobic slur) I will shut down the debate. otherwise, I will not intervene in the debate in any circumstance unless somebody lets me know that they are uncomfortable or behavior along those lines occurs.

if you have a pet feel free to let them have a cameo in the zoom camera :)

I'm open to basically any argument but keep this in mind

I'm a varsity debater for groves high school, so I have a fair idea about most debate rounds (because I do them like every week)

my email for the chain is spooky.science.nerd@gmail.com

if you ask me for the email in chat, I'm going to assume that you're NOT reading my paradigm (which is an excellent habit to get into, and an expectation of varsity kids).

general comments about the debate are at the bottom

-If you're going for T, do it all out. I'm less likely to vote on it if you go for everything in the last speech (this should be common sense but some people forget). I also think that T outdoes a cp/da but will take more convincing for it to outdo k/case (not saying I won't be convinced: a good argument will almost always be able to sway me).

be clear why the aff does not meet the standard, and you have to say why the counterinterp is bad/worse with warrants/impacts. I like reasonability arguments so your arguments have to be solid on this.

for the aff, please provide counterinterps/standards, etc- just saying "their definition is dumb" is not sufficient and won't work.

-I like kritiks but you need to make sure to properly extend/explain the link (or call out the lack of that), give viable reasons why "___ will/won't work" I also think "no alt bad" type arguments are good to make. overall, don't run a Kritik for the sake of adding more arguments to your speech. You need to add all proper components of it for it to have a better chance of doing well. please present your weird kritik in a way that I can understand it and not just philosophical jargon, I have been reading more literature and a good kritik explains the basis but I know there are some really weird ones out there. Neg has to explain clear and non generic link, I NEED in depth explanation of ks in the later speeches. I probably tend to lean a little aff on kritiks for teams who are like "ha 8 off and case, 3 of which are one card kritiks that i don't understand!"

for DAs, my god please keep your ev recent for politics das. its absolutely crucial for current politics, esp on uq debates and less so for links. like please do not separate your da debate into sections, I'm not going to flow "uq debate, link debate" etc.

-counterplans not a fan of "___cp is bad/good" but this isn't my argument, I'm only judging it. if it's well-argued I will vote for it. have a good plan text and explain solvency and such mechanism later on well.

-theory is just neutral. I don't find either side particularly swaying, and if you impact/explain it enough I might vote on it. please don't make it come down to theory etc etc. I think theory v theory is fun to watch and judge but it gets really tricky really quick, so each side needs to tell me what to way and what is dropped

-framework is very good! I personally find the framework interesting to judge. also please understand your argument and words before running it.

for DA/K: if they prove no link then there's no link and I consider it dropped.

general comments:

if the opponent is clipping and you call them out on it, they will lose. if they're clipping and you don't they just get terrible speaks. if the opp team doesn't call it out, you're still loosing if i notice.

-PROVE in round abuse. if you successfully do so, I will probably vote on it

-if you drop an arg, and the other team doesn't jump on it, nobody gets it. if you drop and then extend it later, I won't be happy, but if the other team doesn't object it will be counted.

"they brought up a new arg/they dropped and re-extended/shadow extended" is not something that is inherent, you must point these out and call them out for abuse for it to be viable.

-speed is ok, but try not to intentionally jumble just to get more in; I will warn you if I cant understand. I can also tell when you're jumbling on purpose.

-overall, I don't have a hatred for any argument. I will vote on anything with enough convincing/clarity and the progression of the argument.

-LINE BY LINE IS GOOD! I prefer debates that don't just read cards for all of the speeches. clash is good and I like seeing it happen

-Please don't forget overviews. your speaks will be hurt if you do, just don't do it.

-if I catch you cheating, it's an automatic loss and loss of speaks. (this also goes for discrimination/bigotry in the round)

-tag teaming: is fine as long as you don't speak over each other. be assertive but respectful during cx. if you are constantly talking over the opponents cx i will not be happy. do not start a screaming over each other match.

-on that note, if your teammate is struggling during their speech, you will not be penalized for promoting them (so long as it's not excessive- if your speech is like 2/8 min and very poorly structured, that speaks for itself.) but if they have some time left go ahead and prompt.

-absolutely do not be rude to your opponent/excessively use sarcasm/aggression during your speeches and ESPECIALLY during cx. that being said, I don't mind bold or confident speeches, but just don't be mean. on this topic, the opposite team can cut you off during cx if they have gotten the information they needed- please don't say "they were being rude during cx :(((" because that won't work.

-overall, don't tailor your arguments to my paradigm. anything that is properly structured is viable, and I like seeing unique arguments.