Vassar College Invitational
2016 — Poughkeepsie, NY/US
Parli Judges Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show HideJennifer Gremmel Hunt Paradigm
Background:
Coach, Academy at Little River (2010-present)
Coach, Immaculate High School (2013-present)
J.D., B.F.A. (double major: dance & politics)
I fell into coaching when a colleague decided that, given my legal background, I was well-equipped to teach debate. You & I know better. I learn from my students every day. I’ve judged the Yale Invitational (3) and Penn Liberty Bell Classic (1), in addition to many local extemporaneous policy hybrid tournaments.
Yes, of course, I flow. Speed (not spread) is ok so long as articulation is clear and arguments are organized and signposted/tagged. Don’t use speed as a crutch or to impress. Like most, I try to be tabula rasa: I leave personal biases at the door, and I don’t extend arguments for you. But watch out, I don’t vote exclusively on the flow. The entire argument is paramount for me. I don’t de facto award the win to quantity over quality, nor will I buy the utterly ridiculous
I come to see debate. To that end, I want to see clash. Topicality should (and must) be defended if there is an issue. Theory and Kritiks, meh. If you run something along those lines, be certain it is the best path and explain it, as you are implicitly convincing me to move away from the debate with you.
Impacts: I do like to hear real, reasonable impacts. Weighing: Crystallize and convince me. Give me something to vote.
Zero tolerance for shouting and rudeness, though to quote another judge, “sarcasm warms the heart.”
As an educator, I want to hear a debate about the resolution. I want to experience your critical thinking and reasoning skills through your outstanding oratory skills. I’m reasonably intelligent, but I’m not in your head. Educate me.
I am a traditional LD judge who believes in topicality and strong argumentation with contention, clash, and strong crystallization. Translation: This isn't Congress or Policy.
I don't mind speed, unless it is simply a means of spreading-spread at your own risk.
I keep a vigorous flow, but if I cannot understand your arguments I cannot flow them-are we clear?
Do not heavily rely on esoteric counter-plans or kritques, but that does not mean I will not entertain them when used appropriately and well. I don't mind "out there" arguments-make them mean something and be sure to weigh them.
Beware jargon-I do not have a degree in that.
Please sign-post, but avoid off-time road maps.
DO NOT OFFER TO FLASH your cases-I should not have to read them to decide a winner-this is supposed to about verbal debate that "lay" people can understand-Check out who Lincoln and Douglas actually were.
Beyond this, I am pretty simple. Argue well, follow basic decorum of debate, and make sure I can follow you.
Although I “flow” arguments on a flow pad, please note that I am not a technical judge which provides points here and there and tries to determine which arguments were “carried” to the end of the round or which ones were “dropped”. Instead, I flow to help me keep track of the arguments that are made by both sides and the critical analysis that is conveyed to me to support or refute arguments. Please use the crossfires to ask each other questions and speak to each other, rather than addressing me and asking me to take note of certain statements (which can and should be done during summary and final focus). Consider the final focus as the points I should consider in my reason for judgement write up.
Please weigh, as I find this to be critical to my analysis.
Use "cards" only to support your analysis, not to say "my card is better than your card". A round that heavily relies on "card" after "card" has missed the mark of what debate is about.
I'm a former high school debater and have experience coaching parli and BP.
I can flow fast speeches, but online debates lend themselves best to slightly slower speakers. If you're speaking too fast for my internet connection, I will ask you to slow down.
I judge based on arguments not style. Speaker points are awarded based on the quality of your argumentation, not the quality of your speaking style. For rebuttal speakers, quality argumentation means effectively collapsing arguments and weighing. If you just repeat your arguments in a rebuttal speech, you're not doing your job.
I like examples. Since it's parli debate, that includes hypothetical examples. Please extend your arguments in constructives by giving new examples, new evidence, or new warranting or impacts. I don't like it when debaters repeat what their partners have already said. It's boring for me and it does nothing for your case.
You can run anything you want to as long as you explain it well :) theory and Ks are just arguments, so I treat them the same way I would treat any other argument.
Be respectful! I don't ask for pronouns because no one should be forced to explain their pronouns but don't assume your opponents' pronouns. I'd prefer you say "my opponent" then "he" or "she.
Everett Rutan
Judging Paradigm
I’m primarily parli these days, but the principles would apply to any form of debate I might judge.
I suppose I check all the boxes: successful, national circuit high school debater (policy/cross-ex); debate coach for over 20 years; tab director for over 15 years; debate league director for over 10 years; teach at a respected parliamentary debate summer workshop for over 5 years. However, my career was in business, not education or the law, which does affect my point of view.
None of that is “actionable”, in that it is of no help to you if I’m sitting in the back of the room with my flow and stopwatch waiting for you to begin. The following may be more useful.
My role as a judge is to sort through the debate you and your opponent chose to have and produce a reasoned, persuasive decision. My “case” (RFD) should accurately reflect what was said and be acceptable to each of the debaters as a valid opinion on what occurred, even if they may take issue with that opinion.
This judge as debater approach has certain implications:
· My source material is the debate you choose to have. If you don’t agree on what it should be about, then my decision should be based first on your definitional arguments. If you do agree, then my decision should be based on the relative weight of arguments on the issue. If both teams agree—explicitly or tacitly—to have a particular debate, my opinion as to what the motion or debate should have been about is not relevant.
· The more work you do to lay out a path to a decision, the less work I have to do building it and the fewer decisions I have to make as the judge. That generally works in your favor.
· Your arguments should be based both on what you present and, perhaps even more so, on what your opponents present, with a fair comparison and weighing.
My business background has certain implications:
· Debate is intended to be educational. I have less sympathy for arguments that no one would make or consider in the real world. Theory arguments should be clearly explained and shown to have a serious impact on the matter at hand.
· Not all arguments are equal. Judging is not simply counting arguments won, lost or dropped, but comparing the persuasive weight of each side. I expect both sides will win some arguments and lose some arguments and drop some arguments; if you don’t weigh them, I will.
· Explanations count more than facts (at least explanations broadly consistent with the facts). For any arguable topic there will be examples that favor each side. The fact that some people survive horrendous accidents unscathed is not it itself an argument against safety equipment.
· I don’t have a problem making decisions, and I rarely agonize over them.
Finally, debate is about the spoken word. It is your job to persuade me and in your best interest that I clearly understand what you want to say. It is not my job to be persuaded, nor to intuit what you intended to say beyond a reasonable effort on my part to do so. This has the following implications:
· Speak as fast as you think appropriate. I flow well and can tolerate speed. But if I don’t hear it, don’t hear it as intended, or don’t get it on my flow, it won’t help you. It’s not my job to signal you if you are speaking too fast or drifting into unintelligibility.
· Why wouldn’t you present more arguments than your opponents can handle in the time allowed? Spread is a natural consequence of time-limited debate. But 13 weak reasons why an argument is true won’t help you even if your opponent drops 12 of them, but wins one of greater importance to the issue at hand. Quality spreads as surely as quantity, and has more impact.
· I understand some debaters provide outlines, cards, briefs, etc. I will listen carefully to what you say, but I will not read anything you give me.
I have published a great deal of material of varying quality on the Connecticut Debate Association website, http://ctdebate.org . If you are interested, you can find transcriptions of my flows, various RFDs, topic analysis and general debate commentary reflecting my opinions over the years.
FAQs
Definitions? Definitions are a legitimate area of argument: don’t ask me to rule mid-round. Gov has the right to a reasonable definition of terms. If Opp does not like them, Opp should challenge in a POC, POI or at the top of the LOC. Don’t wait to challenge definitions late in the round. Gov need not explicitly define terms or present a plan: clear usage in the PMC binds Gov and must be accepted or challenged by Opp. P.S. No one likes definition debates, so avoid them at almost all costs.
Points of Clarification? Like them. Think it’s a good tactic for Gov to stop and offer Opp a chance to clear up terms. Should occur at the top of the PMC immediately after presenting definitions/plan/framework, etc.
Pre-speech “outline”? A common local custom not to my taste. Speeches are timed for a reason, and I see this as an attempt to get a bit more speaking time. But, when in Rome… They should be brief and truly an outline, not substance.
New contentions in the Member Constructives? Perfectly legitimate, though it was considered old-fashioned even when I debated 50 years ago. It also presents certain tactical and strategic issues debaters should understand and have thought through.
Counterplans? If you know what you are doing and it’s appropriate to the motion and the Gov case, a counterplan can be extremely effective. Most debaters don’t know what they are doing or use it when there are less risky or more effective options available.
Written material? I’m aware in some leagues debaters give judges a written outline of their case, or pass notes to the speaker. I accept all local customs and will not interfere or hold these against you. However, debate is by spoken word, and I will not read anything you give me.
New arguments in rebuttal (Point of Order)? You should call them if you see them. But if you see them every five words it begins to look like an attempt to disrupt the rebuttal speaker. Landing one good PO puts me on watch for the rest of the speech; multiple “maybes” will likely annoy me.
Evidence? Even in researched debate like policy, facts are cherry picked; even in the real world one rarely has all the facts; explanations generally outweigh simple facts. Information cited should be generally known or well-explained; “what’s your source” is rarely a useful question. I am not required to accept something I know is untrue. If you tell me something I don’t know or am not sure of, I will look it up after the round. That’s how I learn.
Theory? (See “business background” comments above.) These are arguments like any other. They must be clearly explained and their impact on the round demonstrated. They are not magic words that simply need to be said to have an effect. Like all arguments, best present them as if your audience has never heard them before.
Weird stuff? Everyone in my family has an engineering degree. We’re used to intelligent arguments among competent adults. We know we aren’t as clever as we think we are, and you probably aren’t either. The further you drift from a straightforward interpretation of the motion, the greater your burden to justify yourself.
Rules of debate? There are none, or very few. If your opponent does something you think is out of bounds, explain the impact in a speech. Don’t ask me for a ruling mid-round.
ejr, feb 2020, rev apr 2021