Jack Lynch Invitational
2018 — Manchester, NH/US
Debate Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show HideNFA 2024 UPDATE:These are the FIRST debate rounds I have judged on this topic and since last NFA. PLEASE SLOW DOWN. Argument or strategy complexity isn't a problem, but spreading will be. My resolve to keep NFA-LD debate accessible has only strengthened. I will give verbal warnings and your ability to heed these warnings will factor into my decision and speaker point allocation. As has been true in the past, I will find it very difficult to vote for "bad" arguments, even if they are substantially under-covered or in some cases even conceded.
Past Affiliation:Lafayette College
Years in Policy Debate: 3 years HS Policy, 4 years NFA-LD, 1 year coaching CEDA/NDT, 20 years coaching NFA-LD
Props:
-The NFA-LD rules
-Using standards to actively demonstrate why I should prefer your interpretation
-Reading a plan text and defending its implementation as a policy in good faith
-Even/if statements in rebuttals
-Moderating your speed
-Slowing down during analytics so I can actually flow your warrants
-Weighing and comparing impacts
-Comparing warrants in cards
-Internal Link arguments
-Unique impacts
-Doing the work to actually apply the framework to the impact discussion
-Slower rebuttals because you collapsed
-Case specific CPs and DAs
-Explaining and annotating where the Kritik links are on the aff flow
Slops:
-Excessive speed
-Card dumps with no contextualization
-Being rude and overly aggressive
-Using language and/or tactics intent on excluding your opponent
-Factually incorrect arguments about the topic
-Completely ignoring inherency
-BS theory arguments, like "perms are wrong"
-Conditional CPs/ALTs
Other things:
-I won't vote for an argument just because it is conceded, you have to justify WHY that argument is relevant to my ballot and decision. Arguments that are 'bad' don't get any better because they are conceded.
-I prefer rounds that are quick and smart to rounds that are fast and dumb
-I think the 1NR should collapse a lot - you should have time to say why you win the argument, why the argument is relevant to the round, and why it deserves consideration for the ballot.
-If you go for everything in the 1NR, I will NOT do extra work for you to answer the questions above. I will also be more likely TO do work for the 2AR as they struggle to keep up and cover everything.
-I believe that in NFA-LD, Topicality is primarily jurisdictional and prefer competing interpretations. Using standards to adjudicate which interp to apply is more important to me than proven abuse. If you win that your interp should be preferred AND that they violate it, I will vote on T without abuse.
Brent Brossmann
Director of Debate, John Carroll University since 1993
Years in debate: Since 1976
Years Coaching: Since 1985
Rounds per year: ~50 per year recently
I am a policy maker. I believe in the value of policy debate. The organization specifies that it embraces policy debate. I will make my decisions on policy. Thus, there are two ways you can win my ballot:
1. Have the best policy. This is mostly a comparison of plans and counterplans; advantages and disadvantages. However, many kritiks have policy implications and are relevant to policy making. Others are not.
2. Prove that your opponent’s practice is so egregious that I need to vote against them regardless of the policy. That could be for topicality, a theory violation, or some in-round behavior that was so egregious that it should be the voting issue. Topicality is a voting issue. It is not a reverse voting issue. The negative doesn’t actually win topicality without demonstrating in-round abuse. In-round abuse can be proven by demonstrating that arguments to which you should have access were denied to you by the affirmative’s plan. You don’t actually have to run and lose the arguments, but you do need to win that these were arguments you should have had access to, that they were important and that the plan denied you access.
Counterplans need to be competitive. The counterplan must be better than the combination of the plan and counterplan (net benefits) or better than the plan alone IF the policies are mutually exclusive.
As a policy maker, risk is important. Please use impact comparisons to weigh rounds for me. Probability, magnitude, risk and time frame are arguments that both debaters should use in rebuttals to weigh the round for me. Prioritize those that help you win and explain why they are more important.The bottom line is that debaters need to respond to each other’s arguments in meaningful ways. However, there is a strong presumption against any argument which does not directly relate to the policy being discussed in the round, unless it is a compelling argument as to why your opponent is abusive either in theory (not playing fairly) or in discourse (is actually offensive). I will continue to defend the value of policy debate.
To help the tournament run on time, I’ll submit a ballot before I comment. After that, I’ll be happy to disclose. The best education in debate happens in the post-round discussion and the more quickly that follows the end of the round, the more relevant the information is.
SPEED
I don’t care about speed, per se. I do care about clarity. I know that some debaters care about speed. My policy is that the person who wants it to be slower “wins” that issue. So, if someone is too fast, simply say “slower please.” If someone says that to you, slow down.
ARGUMENT PREFERENCES
I do not want to hear arguments that don’t have a real impact on policy. For example, the fact that the USFG may be evil for some (fill in your own) reason, is, by itself, not a reason to reject a particular policy advocated by the affirmative. If you prove that the affirmative’s policy is evil, that is a reason to vote. If you abolish the USFG and prove that such a counterplan is competitive with the plan, that is a reason to vote. However, a general indict of a system which will continue regardless of how I vote is not a reason to reject a particular policy enacted by that system.
FINAL THOUGHTS
Have fun. Be kind. Learn a lot. Don’t forget to smile or laugh. Remember, your opponents are here because they share your love of the event. The same is true of your judges. I love my wife more than my life, and yet I’ve been willing to come to tournaments without her for the last 30 years. We all dedicate huge amounts of time and passion. Respect that and your colleagues. Finally, my last name is pronounced with a long O, like a bro. But you can call me Brent.
I believe it is best to disclose the bad news first. I work for a government agency. As such, I cannot engage in behaviors that could call into question my non-partisan affiliation. What this means for debate is that if your argument would likely ruffle the feathers of a politician who has no understanding of thought experiments, then I cannot endorse it. Specifically, proposals that reject the state, reject capitalism, etc. There is no specific topic area this excludes, rather it excludes some arguments used to justify topical cases. Use your judgment, and if you have to think more than five seconds about it, either go with a different argument or strike me.
If you've made it this far, I have good news: you get to argue in front of a real-life government official who knows how things work in the real world and would be on the frontline(s) of your case impacts Congratulations?
In terms of specific debate mechanics, I have certain preferences. Conditionality itself doesn't bother me. Performative contradictions do. There is no reason one cannot assemble arguments that do not contradict across multiple worlds on a topic with this much literature. Also, if the affirmative makes a ‘conditionality bad’ argument, I interpret each conditional argument as a violation until I’m told to think otherwise. Another thing that rustles my jimmies is when people read into their laptop rather than into the room. I will say clear once, then the second time I will lay down my pen until you start making sense. This does mean I flow on paper, so rest assured that I am listening to your argument and not goofing around on my laptop.
Lastly, I'm not well-versed in much of the critical literature, so if you are going to run a philosophically-oriented argument above a 7th grade reading level it would be best to assume I have no idea what you are talking about because I probably don't. I'm not going to pretend I understand your argument for the sake of making myself look smart. If you need further clarification, feel free to ask before the round.
Here's the tl;dr
Specifics > Generics
Substance and T > Rules and fake procedurals
Competitive PICS > Everything
Defending what you do > Aff Framework and Nonsense Perms
Link > Uniqueness
Offense > Everything
Always a risk > Terminal defense
Doing what you do best > Over-adapting
Things to know when debating in front of me:
1) I’m highly suspicious of arguments that have been debunked by contemporary debate theory or demonstrate weakness in preparation or strategy. I’ll vote on these if you win them clearly but my threshold is relatively high. Some examples include: Inherency, vagueness or any other non-topicality procedural, one conditional position bad, PICs bad, Aff framework against the K, non-evidenced analytics, and random NFA LD rules violations (the last one basically never). Otherwise, any argument is fine.
2) That being said, I love a good T debate. Sometimes topicality is the strategy. I default to competing interpretations.
3) I flow carefully. Technical drops are considered true in a relative sense.
4) Go as fast as you want, I can keep up as long as you’re clear. Speed is never ‘exclusionary’, it’s part of the game. You can critique the game, but in the absence of a well developed critique of debate practice, you should be able to cover. Smart and slow beats fast and nonsensical.
5) I have a strong preference for specific arguments and stories. The K and DA might turn case, but how?
6) I decide policy debates in the following manner
a. Decide the relative probability of each position in the debate. This means that you need offense on the major positions in the debate because I will almost never assign 0% probability to either a disadvantage or advantage. This also means that you should never assume you’re winning 100% probability of an argument. “Even if” statements are your friend. The amount of time you spend on a position will help me determine its relative probability.
b. Weigh the relative probability and magnitude of each position. This can get complicated in CP and DA debates, but I consider the degree of CP solvency to determine the probability of the affirmative’s advantages.
c. Attempt to describe the world of my decision. In other words, if I have a hard time wrapping my head around the world that either side describes in the last rebuttal, that’s a problem. I have enough argument critic in me that making sense (in debate’s already skewed and open world) is important.
7) I’m pretty open to any argument style. Love the K if done well, I’m likely familiar with the literature base. In K debates, I'm usually not into the perm unless it makes sense. If you're reading big impacts, it's probably best to impact turn and debate the alternative.
I don’t expect the aff to have a plan, but they probably need to talk about the resolution. I do, however, expect planless affs to defend their practices. You can go for T/Framework in front of me on the neg but you need persuasive answers to the impact turns. In planless aff debates, and K debates more generally, controlling the framing of the ballot is really important. I need to know what’s going on and what voting for you does or means.
8) Hate speech and racist arguments are a no-go. I’m good with weird extinction good arguments, however. Just don’t exclude individuals from the debate because of their identities.
I did NFA-LD debate for 4 years, and since then have judged occasionally.
I try to keep a careful flow and will weigh arguments based on how you tell me to prioritize them. Impact calculus is very important. When there is clash between evidence making competing claims, tell me why I should prefer your evidence.
I'll listen to / vote for anything, but if I had to express a preference it would be for policy focused debate and DAs and CPs rather than Ks, however if you want to read a K, it's totally fine. You're probably better off reading what makes you comfortable and plays to your strengths rather than trying to prioritize my preferences. For DAs and Ks I want to see a clear link, more specific to the case is better, and you should explain how I am weighting your impacts (impact calc or framework). For CPs and K alts I want to understand what you are advocating - I'm not a fan of ambiguous CP text or vague alts.
A note for the affirmative, when you only have 3 minutes for the 2AR you should make them count. You don't need to spend 1:30 reading a pre-written overview reminding me what your advantages were. Effective 2AR time allocation is one of the most important skills that separates top competitors. I vote on the flow, make sure you're covering key points and not dropping half the NR.
My educational background is in math, physics, and engineering rather than anything related to political science or philosophy, which I am mostly exposed to through debate. As such I am unlikely to be familiar with the thesis of some more abstract K arguments based on block titles or authors last name, so if you are going for such a position it is important that what you reading is clearly explaining the key ideas in round. On the other hand, if the topic lends itself to scientific discussions, I may be more familiar than most with scientific / technical arguments and evidence.
I'm fine with conditional arguments in general, but not if they are being used abusively. I don't really care if you kick a CP with a bunch of defense read against it and go for the status quo, but I might care if you read some contradictory positions which you intend to kick out of when collapsing latter in the round.
Any procedurals are ok. If the procedural is a rules violation, then I don't think showing abuse is necessary. For other types of procedurals my default position is also that showing abuse is not necessary, but I'll consider arguments to the contrary. The standards debate is how I evaluate these arguments. I like competing interpretations. I much prefer a few well developed standards with impacts over a bunch of blip taglines.
Having said that, your procedurals still have to be logical and persuasive. My default position is condo is generally fine, your opponent running weak arguments isn't an RVI for some reason, and poor time allocation on your part is not a form of time skew.
Speed is fine, as long as you are clear, but would prefer if you went at a pace where your opponent is able to keep up. When reading analytics (such as standards for theory arguments) you should go at a pace where I can flow your warrants and impacts, which may involve slowing down compared to when you read evidence. I do tend to follow along with your speech doc, so you can probably go a bit faster if you give me a well organized doc and roadmap, and go a bit slower if you're jumping all over the place or making analytics not in the document.
Evidence quality is important to me. I want your cards to clearly support the taglines you give them, and the language should be comprehensible to a general college educated audience. I tend to be skeptical of cards where what you are reading is a few disjointed sentence fragments spread out over pages of minimized text - make sure you are not changing the essence of the original or creating new arguments. I will look at key cards after the round, but I expect you to actually read the important parts, I'm not going to go hunting for your warrants if they're hiding in the middle of the page in size 6 font. When cards clash in the round, I will be really happy if you compare evidence quality and warrants.
michels.browne@gmail.com
I competed in policy debate many years ago for Kansas and coached Lincoln Douglas debate for Penn State the past five years. This is my first year as a CEDA/NDT coach/judge. As an argumentation instructor, I value the quality of evidence and arguments. So, if challenged I will examine the evidence (all of it including the unhighlighted and minimized sections) in the round—best say what you claim it says. I also want to hear warranted arguments, not labels –i.e. just saying “education” on topicality is not sufficient. I, to the best of my ability, adopt the perspective of tabula rasa and will listen to any argument presented in the debate, EXCEPT I still retain common sense. If you tell me the sky is green with orange polka dots, I won’t buy it.
As mentioned, any types of arguments (Ks, counterplans, topicality, etc.) are accepted and can win you the debate, if you convince me why your position is best. I expect to hear an explanation for how you have won in your team’s final rebuttal. Plan-less affs are not my favorite, but I will listen. Not fond of PICs, but again I will listen.
I don’t view debate as a “game”. I perceive it to be an educational activity in which the participants demonstrate their acumen, analytical and argumentative abilities.
Be smart, be civil, have fun.
For debate, I like to see well explained impact scenarios. I’m okay with speed, but will say clear once if I do not understand you. It is up to you to adjust. If you are running topicality arguments, make sure it is egregious and not just running them just to run them. Otherwise, I’ll listen to pretty much everything else.
Years involved in collegiate debate: 35
Debated: NDT policy debate
Coached: NDT, NFA LD, Worlds style BP
I like NFA LD style debate because it relies on evidence and emphasizes the stock issues. I default to policy making but will adjust my paradigm if directed to do so by the debaters.
I will seriously consider nearly every argument - CP's are ok, procedural arguments (T, Vagueness, K's) need to be very clearly explained. I have voted for K's but don't find them super compelling - I think they are frequently vulnerable to perms.
Please be clear, number your arguments, explain why you are winning issues.
1. General Information.
Thank you for reading this over. Good luck to all of the competitors.
(a) I view the round as a policy maker. Generally, I vote for the debater who defends the better policy option through weighing out the pros and cons of the policy.
(b) Case-specific and generic arguments. I enjoy case-specific direct clash. As for generic arguments, the more they are directly applied to the case at hand, the more weight they will be given.
(c) Procedural arguments. For me, procedural arguments need to be specifically applied to the case at hand.
(d) The role of evidence. I value evidence, but I don’t think evidence alone is always the winner. Explaining the evidence and the issues in the round (which often comes from knowledge gained by reading about the topic), making good analytical arguments, and locating, impacting and interrelating arguments within the larger perspective of the whole round are the skills that usually determine the outcome of the round.
(e) Please include me on the email thread for the exchange of evidence. My email is dtrumble@anselm.edu
(f) Speed and comprehension. Judges should be able to understand what the debaters are saying. I feel that the judge should be able to understand what is being said and not have to read briefs after the round to know what was argued. I will look at evidence after the round, but I will not substitute what I learn there if the delivery is incomprehensible.
(g) My experience. I have been active in policy debate for 49 years - 8 years as a debater and 41 years as a coach. I enjoy seeing the changes in the activity and learn from new perspectives and arguments that are offered.
2. LD Rules.
This is NFA LD debate, so I respect the rules of this league.
Regarding sources, I realize that a name and date is becoming the norm. I won’t vote on that, but I think that providing qualifications and a source increases the credibility of any good evidence.
I will apply NFA theory rules (e.g. counterplans, inherency, solvency and topicality).
As for other rules, such as speed, I will not be able to give your evidence much credit in the round if you read it so fast that I don’t understand it.
3. Critiques.
In regards to critiques, for me, substantive critiques have a few burdens:
(a) be unique,
(b) have a direct link to the AFF plan/case (not generic),
(c) have an impact that outweighs the AFF case, and
(d) have a real-world policy alternative (an actual counter-plan) that has specific solvency for the problems outlined in the AFF case.
Separately, procedural critiques would function more as an apriori issue (e.g. – offensive language or offensive behavior).
4. Perspective. Please be polite and try to be helpful, especially to younger debaters who have less experience than you. If you want the judges to vote for you, try to understand their perspective. They don’t know your arguments as well as you do and therefore don’t know all of the nuances of your points. It is your job to explain your arguments and get the judges to see things from your point of view. Competition is a great experience. At the same time, I hope you enjoy your experience debating, traveling with your team, making friends and learning from the activity.
By far the most important thing is that I never debated. As such, I can’t keep up with speed as well as more experienced judges, and I haven’t judged any debate rounds so I don’t have any preferences on the general paradigms of debate. I'm okay with speed, and will try to be strict about maintaining rules. I will not be disclosing in room after the debate.