FGCCFL Grand Finals
2019 — Wharton HS, Tampa, FL/US
Lincoln-Douglas Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show HideI am a parent judge, talk slowly and make good points.
I typically can't hear/follow full speed spreading. If I can't hear you I will yell clear.
I will listen to any arguments I understand. If you are running progressive arguments I expect clear explanations for every part of the case. You can read tricky arguments but if I can't hear them I will not vote on them.
Traditional approach is probably best.
I value tech over truth, once again as long as the argument is explained to me.
During rebuttals I expect clear, heavy impact work. Explain how your arguments interact with theirs and tell me why to vote for you.
I prefer traditional arguments that are intuitive and compelling. No Ks, Theory, etc. or anything related to progressive debate. If you speak too fast I won't be able to hear or follow your arguments, so keep the pace slow.
ABOUT ME -
I have been judging in Speech Events (HI, DI, DUO, EXT, OO), Debate Events (LD, PF, Policy) and Congressional Debate since 2018.
I enjoy judging Congressional Debates where I can see many debaters debate on numerous topics in the student chamber.
I favor to give points and rank high upon following skills even though congressional leaders need to be successful in passing legislation.
- Assertiveness – Standing up for one’s beliefs and being able to confidently take charge of difficult situations, making tough decisions despite opposition. In a politically charged environment where everyone is vying for their opinion to be heard, being assertive is key.
- Building Alliances – Earning trust and respect from others and taking the time to build effective working relationships with individuals.
- Commitment - Passionately and enthusiastically demonstrating a dedication to the causes and beliefs you espouse.
- Conflict Resolution - Effectively resolving misunderstandings, disagreements, and disputes with other individuals. Directly addressing issues with others in a non-threatening manner. Being willing to compromise in order to maintain effective working relationships.
- Influence - Using a variety of persuasion tactics, interpersonal skills, and communication and presentation strategies to convince others to make decisions that are mutually beneficial to all parties involved.
- Presentation Skills - Using effective verbal and nonverbal communication skills to clearly deliver information to a variety of audiences. Being confident and comfortable when speaking in front of groups. Making presentations that are clear, engaging and impactful.
JUDGING HISTORY-
- Barkley Forum for High Schools 1/29 - 1/31/2021
- Sunvite 2021
- Cavalier Invitational at Durham Academy 1/16 - 1/18/2021
- Florida Sunshine District Tournament 12/5
- FGCCFL December Tournament
- Glenbrooks Speech and Debate Tournament 11/21 - 11/23/2020
- FGCCFL November Tournament
- Florida Blue Key 2020 10/30 -11/1 Congress Debate
- Duke Invitational 2020 9/19 -9/20 Congressional Debate
- National Speech and Debate Season Opener Hosted by UK 2020 9/12 -9/14 Congressional Debate
- FGCCFL Grand Finals 2020 2/28 -2/29 Congress Debate
- FGCCFL February All Events 2020 2/8 IE & Congress Debate
- FGCCFL January All Events 2020 1/18 -1/18 IE & Congress Debate
- Florida Sunshine District Tournament 2019 12/14 -3/28 Congress Debate
- The Sunvitational 2020 1/10 -1/12 Congress Debate
- FGCCFL December All Events 2019 12/7 IE & Congress Debate
- Barkley Forum for High Schools 2020 1/24 -1/26
- Congressional Debate FGCCFL September All Events 2019 9/28 -9/28 IE & Congress Debate
- Florida Blue Key 2019 11/1 -11/3 Congress Debate
- Yale Invitational 2019 9/13 -9/15 Speech
- FGCCFL Grand Finals 2019 2/22 -2/23 Lincoln-Douglas
- Barkley Forum for High Schools 2019 1/25 -1/27
- Congressional Debate Florida Sunshine District Tournament 2018 12/8 -3/9
- Congressional Debate FGCCFL November All Events 2018 11/17 -11/17 IE and Congress Debate
- FGCCFL October All Events 2018 10/13 -10/13 Lincoln-Douglas
- FGCCFL September All Events 2018 9/22 -9/22 Public Forum Yale Invitational 2018 9/14 -9/16 Varsity Public Forum
BACKGROUND
Undergraduate:
- MBBS, University of Medicine, Yangon, Myanmar.
Post graduate:
- MPH, London School of Hyigene and Tropical Medicine, University London, UK
- MSc. Computer Science, Western Illinois University
- Post Doc Medical Informatics Fellowship, Health Science Technology, Harvard-MIT
V/VC
The value and value criterion are the center of the debate. Please make sure your framework is well laid out and logical. I'll accept pretty much any structure, but make sure you convince me of why it works and why it is important.
Speed
Spreading is a fun trick, but it's useless in the real world. I'd prefer you didn't do it. You can red quickly but remember that debate is as much an exercise in public speaking as it is writing, argumentation, and critical thinking.
Contentions
A contention by definition contends something. Every argument should have a claim, warrant, and evidence.
Evidence/Cards
A well researched and originally written case always comes off better than a canned, prepared set of cards you get out of a brief. Citing an endless stream of cards and complaining because your opponent didn't name-drop all of the same people in their rebuttal is not debate. The evidence should be good, no matter who wrote it. It is nothing more than support for the argument and framework.
Rebuttals
I generally vote more off of the rebuttal speeches than the constructive. Reading a well written case doesn't take much talent. It's in the rebuttal that real creativity, critical thinking, and argumentation skills come into play. Make every speech count.
Voters
While voter issues are not required, they help me on the flow, so I encourage you to use them. Try to save time for them. Also, focus on the few best, don't try to summarize the whole debate in thirty seconds.
Signposting
Please signpost when you move between parts of the case. Slowing down to tell everyone that you're moving to another contention, or to another case makes a great deal of difference in how easily I flow. If I flow more easily, I consider you to be a more organized debater.
Electronics
I honestly don't have a preference about reading cases off of paper or a computer screen. As long as you're in compliance with tournament rules, you can use electronics for anything you want. Whatever works best for you.
Questioning
During the questioning period I rarely take notes, but I put some emphasis on how well you question and handle being questioned. Learning how to ask a question properly in debate is an art form, as is knowing how to answer questions.
Ethical Issues
I pay close attention to unethical behavior and I take it seriously. I don't like debaters being rude, getting personal, abusing time or arguments, or acting in otherwise unacceptable ways. It's a professional activity and academic in its nature. The same rules apply. I know that debate has clash, but make sure that it never crosses the line into ad hominem. Likewise, I have no tolerance for cheating. This is value debate, and I expect that you'll embody the values you advocate.
Other
In general, I don't mind any unorthodox framework or arguments. I like the creative exercise that goes into them. Still, it has to be coherent and logical. Be cautious about using debate lingo that not everyone is familiar with. Debate is a pedagogical exercise, so if your opponent comes out confused and disheartened, it's not a win, it's a loss for the event overall.
About me:
Update January 2024.
Whew. Been a long ride since I last updated. If I'm in the back of the room for you, it's because someone drafted me into judging a tournament as a fill-in for somebody else. My work has gotten increasingly busy, and now I work close to 12 hours a day. I also have a baby on the way (due April 2024!) so there may be some elements of sleep deprivation. I have stopped actively coaching debate, and probably will not pick it back up until the aforementioned child is in middle/high school and has decided to join the debate team.
As a result, a few things to think about.
My ability to hear speed hasn't gone away - I listen to debate rounds online from time to time, and fast spreading still sounds like conversational speech to me. What has gone away is my ability for my flow to keep up with speed. I can pretty much guarantee that if you spread anything except the text of evidence itself I will miss arguments on my flow. It's a sad state of affairs, but that's what happens when I don't judge regularly.
I will not be familiar with the topic beyond what I follow in the news (though admittedly, I read a lot). It might be beneficial to think of me as a well informed person, but someone whose knowledge is much wider than it is deep. As I've stated in past updates, it's to your advantage to read deeper piece of evidence that you can explain well. Keep in mind that any narrative you build based on that evidence is vulnerable to disruption by the other team, and so be prepared for that.
If you want to read T, theory, or framework, that's still fine. It's my general perspective that framework debates have changed as the community has started embracing a lot more Ks, and given my unfamiliarity with that literature base, I'd spend some time explaining it if I was in your shoes.
I'm a lot more flexible, however, on what I'm willing to judge. I used to have a strong preference for reading a plan text. Judging so much PF and LD, where plan texts are less common (especially in PF, where it's usually a bad idea to read one), pulled me away from that preference. I'm more concerned with the central thesis of the debate more so than I'm concerned about plan action. That's not to say I don't enjoy the whole plan text + advantages structure which dominated my time as a debater, because I do. It's just that I recognize that affirmative solvency isn't necessarily dependent on the implementation of a plan. Most plan-less debates still have the concept that you need to present an alternative to the status quo and solvency for it, but that doesn't need to a plan implemented by a government entity.
Finally, a general thought. I do make a point of trying to keep up with developments in the debate community, especially in the policy and progressive LD domains. There is a lot of public pushback against both activities as exclusionary because of the various Ks that get read, and it creates an image that debaters are trying to push out people who don't agree with them. There are people outside of debate who will cherry-pick judging paradigms, or streamed debates which are K-heavy, and then present that as evidence that debate is broken. As someone who has been around debate for a long time, and as someone who has a lot of friends still coaching and judging who have informed me otherwise, I really don't think that's the case. Unless I see something which really leads me to believe otherwise, I will defend and advocate for debate as much as I possibly can. I only ask that you help me in this goal by being the best version of yourself - do deep research, constantly refine your speaking skills, practice flowing, and always do redos after your tournaments. Just like you need evidence to win your debates, I need it too.
Thanks for letting me be your judge.
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Update for Harvard 2022
I am super tired at this point in time, largely because I started a demanding new job in the middle of a pandemic while remote coaching a 10-person LD/PF team by myself (though my older debaters are finally cutting their own evidence, so that helps.) Please consider slowing down. I'm fine with all your tech, but maybe focus on reading deeper pieces of evidence and explaining them to me instead of going fast. I just wanna hear a good debate at this point, but not a fast one.
Rest of my philosophy is below, nothing has changed in the macro sense except the speed stuff.
My email is zoheb.nensey@gmail.com
Feel free to ask me any questions post round or put me on the email chain.
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I debated for four years at Miami (FL), took a year off to coach for the Chief at KCKCC, and then returned to school to coach at Florida State. I then spent 5 years in DC, where I worked with Oakton HS for like a year or two, and then with the Washingtion UDL for 3 years. I've since moved back to Florida and work with Jesuit (Tampa) on the side. We do a little bit of policy, and a lot of PF/LD (good locally, mostly a bunch of pretty bad 1-5s, 2-4s on the circuit).
Short version:
1) Speed's fine - I'll let you know if you're going too fast. Sorry if I miss it on my flow, but my local circuit is not very fast.
2) I have an ongoing love affair for T. You can turn it with your K if you want, but know that I'll evaluate the T flow before I evaluate anything else (including any turns.) Please slow slow slow down on these debates as I rarely judge T (or theory, for that matter) anymore. For 2018-9, I am not as familiar with the topic and what is normally considered topical as I would like. So keep that in mind when you're arguing about what the core of the topic is.
3) Arguments I consider outlandish but will still vote for (but warning - high threshold here):
a) Must define all terms - only if the aff somehow drops it.
b) nuclear malthus, spark, wipeout - only if the neg goes all in on it during the block and the aff doesn't win any offense against it. Feel free to bust out your turns, affirmatives.
c) ASPEC - only if the neg asks who the actor is in the 1AC cross-x, and the negative can justify loss of ground based on that actor choice.
4) K debates - go for it. Please provide real world examples of the kind of logic that the affirmative is using and why that logic is a bad idea.
5) Framework debates - go for it. But please let me know you're reading framework in your roadmap - I flow these separately, and much like a T debate.
6) Disads - have fun. Read them. I'm still skeptical of political capital being zero sum after having lived in DC for 5 years, but read it anyway if you think you have a good argument. All other disads are fair game, but don't make your internal link chains too contrived.
7) Counterplans - these are cool too. I'm skeptical of consult CPs from a theoretical perspective, but handle the perm debate and you'll be good. Also - if you're the aff, don't go too fast through your perms, and make sure you explain them in detail. If you're the negative, slow down on your counterplan text - I need to write it down.
8) Theory - I only really vote on super egregious violations (except as outlined above, like on consult CPs), but please avoid reading conflicting worlds.
Longer version:
Theory
I always read theory in debates as an answer if I didn't have anything else. My past experience has been, though, unless its a really egregious violation, I'm not likely to vote on theory. If you're reading more than one counterplan or alternative, AND they conflict, that's a pretty sure way to get me to pull the trigger on theory. If you’re saying “condo”, and then read conflicting positions which can function as offense against each other – you have another thing coming if you think I won’t let the affirmative make you defend both. If, however, they don't conflict then I see no real problem with multiple conditional positions.
T
I like T. I've won debates on T. I think that affs should have a clear link to the topic. For me, its always been a question of competing interpretations. I do think a lot of critical affs can still be run with a topical plan. That's not to say I won't vote for an affirmative that doesn't have a plan text - I've done it before - but you have to have a really good reason why doing your plan through a personal advocacy rather is a better idea then having the USFG doing the plan.
CPs
I think that counterplans are a necessary part of any debate. I'm fine with most counterplans, with the one major exception being consult counterplans. I don't like consult counterplans because it seems that most of the time the net benefit is pretty artificial and stems entirely off of the counterplan's action, rather than any direct link to the plan.
These debates always seem to be pretty heavy on theory, so when you're debating the theory part of these debates slow it down a little and explain things out, because if you're blippy on the line by line I won't be able to catch everything you write down.
DAs
Nothing's better than a good disad. I'm pretty fair game with almost any disad. Though I have a higher threshold for politics.
Ks
I like the K, but I'm not especially familiar with it. My background is such that I’ve spent a lot of time looking at political science things, communication things, statistics things, and computer things, but I have not had the chance to dig into philosophical literature much beyond the basics. I have judged a number of K debates over the years, so my basic feeling is that if you run into a K Aff, you should try and read a K against it.
If you’re an affirmative and you get a K run against you, try and engage it. I am not averse to the idea that the affirmative can be a step in the right direction. That being said, the negative should spend time highlighting the logic and assumptions of the affirmative – I tend to view the link in these terms, and I am persuadable by arguments along the line that even if the aff is a step in the right direction, its’ underlying logic means that it won’t achieve any sort of long term solvency for the harms that the K expresses. But it’s on the negative to prove that the bias of the affirmative is strong enough to preclude any risk of affirmative solvency or perm solvency at all, and on top of that I need to understand why the K’s alternative will eventually resolve the problems presented by the aff. A change in logic can lead to changes in how we formulate policy, but you need to explain that.
One other thing – on framework. I am not averse to it. I will judge it much like a T debate for the K – it comes first if it’s get read. But my threshold for rejecting frameworks that simply say that we should only do policy analysis is low. Policy considerations are always based on assumptions and ways of looking at the world, and your framework argument should tell me what your view of the world is and why that’s better than whatever the negative is proposing. Make it specific. Also let me know if you’re reading framework (in the form of – you’ll need an extra sheet) during your roadmap. I flow framework separately.
Offense/Defense
Offense is good --> having lots of it at the end of a debate makes me happy. In the case that the other team has lots of offense too, I need a clear explanation why your offense is more important than theirs, because otherwise you're opening the door for a lot of judge interventionism. I don't like intervening, but if I have to intervene I will.
Defense is good too --> I think you can win on an argument purely on defense. If you have some really good evidence that takes out their link or takes out the uniqueness to their disad, by all means, read it and use it to its fullest extent. I need there to be more than just a risk of a link to vote an argument. If you're negative, make sure your link is as concrete as you can possibly make it.
Miscellaneous
Be nice to the other team and to your partner. I once had a partner who was blatantly rude, and it cost us debates and caused a lot of bad feelings. Rudeness will hurt your speaks.
If you don't know the answer to a question in CX, it's far better to say I don't know or look to your partner to answer it than to stand there blankly or try and dodge the question.
I'm fine with tag-team CX.
Jokes about the Florida State Seminoles (even though I went there), the Florida Gators, and the Ohio State Buckeyes will be rewarded with a laugh and a slight increase in speaker points.
Humor in general will be rewarded with increases in speaker points.
Speaker Points Scale
30 - you're the best debater I've ever seen, and your execution was flawless. I don't think I've ever given a 30, but if someone were to get it they would probably also be in late outrounds at the NDT.
29 - 29.9 - You're one of the best debaters at the tournament (in your division.)
28 - 28.9 - You're good, You'll probably clear.
27 - 27.9 - You're an okay debater, you need some work, you didn't drop anything major.
26 - 26.9 - You dropped at least one or more important arguments that lost you the round.
25 - 25.9 - This is reserved for people who were either so atrocious that they answered nothing (an unlikely scenario, no matter the division), or were exceptionally rude to one or more people in the debate.
At the end of the day, do what you do best. If you can run and explain a K really well, then run it. If your pleasure is politics disads, go for it. I've voted against my personal preferences before, and I'll do it again. I'll work hard in deciding the round for you because I know you work hard to prepare. So do your best, keep it civil, and have fun.
Very lay judge. I can flow, but you must speak at a moderate pace.
Make logical arguments and weigh.
Be courteous in round.
Hi, I'm Lauren Robinson, and I am assistant debate coach at Cypress Lake High School in Fort Myers, Florida. This is my second year as assistant coach, and I have also taught debate for several years. With me, you can run pretty much any type of argument unless it is blatantly offensive. What I want is a clear framework, values and VCs that make sense in light of your overall argument, and evidence that you've considered all logical possibilities.
I am pretty flexible on speed. I can listen to and understand someone speaking pretty fast, but spreading just to hear yourself say more words rather than to fit in essential points seems showy, a bit inconsiderate of your opponent, and pointless to me. If spreading seems warranted by the density of the material you're addressing, I will allow it, but don't spread to just repeat yourself twelve times. Aim for profundity rather than verbosity.