Minnetonka Invitational Tournament LD CX Congress
2020 — Online, MN/US
JV/Varsity LD Judges Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show HideI've been the LD coach at Saint Thomas Academy/Visitation since 2005. I debated LD a long time ago.
TLDR (my round is starting):
Be smart, interesting and topical. Speed is fine, but be clear. Don't like theory unless it's really abusive. Otherwise open to most anything
Decision Calculus
I approach the debate in layers. I start at framing (role of the ballot, then standards for order). Once I have a framework, I evaluate whatever offense that links to that framing. This means I may ignore some offense being weighed if it doesn't link. I appreciate it when you do the work of clearly linking and layering for me. The clearer you are in layering, linking and weighing, the better your speaker points.
Tendencies
I like to think I keep a reasonably detailed flow. I flow card bodies. To help me locate where you are, signpost to the author names. I try to evaluate on the line by line as much as possible, but Im using that to construct and evaluate the big picture arguments that I compare.
I prefer well developed deeper stories to blip arguments.
I prefer different takes on the resolution. I reward well run creative topical arguments. If you can explain it, I'll listen to most any argument. Creative args are not an auto win though.
Theory is reasonability, drop the arg. I'll intervene If it's run (that's how it checks actual abuse). Given that I prefer creative resolutional approaches, there's not a lot theory applies to.
I can evaluate nat circuit structures and traditional debate structure. Use what's comfortable for you, but I may give some technical leeway to traditional debaters trying to address nat circuit case structures.
It goes without saying, but don't be racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. I'll potentially intervene if you are.
Dont be mean. It tanks your speaks.
Im usually pretty relaxed, debate is supposed to be fun. You should relax a bit too.
Feel free to ask any questions before the round.
Please talk slowly, I don't like debate speed speaking. If you're speaking too quick and I miss something, it won't be on my flow.
Background: I was in speech and debate at East Ridge High School in Minnesota and graduated in 2018. I did info and OO in speech. I mainly did congress while I was in debate, but I also competed in PF decently often, and in World Schools at nationals. I also did IPPF and extemp debate.
I graduated from the University of Minnesota - Carlson School of Management in December 2021 with a degree in finance. I work at Travelers in fixed income investments, i.e. the bond market. I am currently pursuing my CFA designation. With that educational and professional background, I tend to favor economic arguments. These are usually easier for me to keep up with and are very enjoyable for me to listen to! I do love a creative argument though.
Debate philosophy: I think debate is a great academic activity that teaches critical thinking, research, speaking, and other life skills. I'm a "Truth > tech" judge. In all debates, I would rather a competitor have 2 thorough, nuanced contentions than 4 thin, poorly defended contentions. I enjoy being persuaded, not being told at.
In congress, I like either new arguments, or a rebuttal speech. Please do not recycle arguments, and please do not recycle rebuttals - both don't move the debate forward. I tended to PO a lot in high school, so I have a healthy appreciation for a well run chamber. Feel free to use puns and other methods to improve your speaking stylization!
I've done 3 years of debate at Hopkins High School. As a judge, I like to see debaters who do well in basic skills and tactics like signposting, extensions, and weighing. I give speaks based on the technique and skill of the debater, so demonstrating skill in something like weighing or framework debate is more important than using confusing language and advanced techniques. Voters and Worlds Comparison/Crystallization are the most critical components I look for in a debate, because they are the summation of the entire round and the section where I am given the reason to vote for or against a debater.
Add me to the email chain: dean.doneen@gmail.com
I coach LD Debate at Roseville Area High School in MN
Speed is fine under most circumstances, probably not great to plow through Deleuze at top speed though. I'll say clear/slow 3 times max.
Please debate the resolution
27.5 is average speaks
I will not vote for a prioris (this doesn't include thought out deductive argument like an amoral state NC)
If you have a dog, please include a picture at the bottom of your speech doc
I think I flow pretty well and speed is fine, but if you make 6 quick arguments at top speed and don't remind me of them when you give voting issues and I missed one of them, I won't change my vote based off of the argument I missed. I'd encourage your summary of the round to be at a slower pace.
What a 30 looks like
- I learned something from you
- Your time management was great
- It is clear you are very knowledgeable on everything you read and arguments you made
- You won the round
- You did not do any tricks/ you did not read any a prioris
- You had a great under view/voting issues in your final speech summarizing the debate
- You spoke slower than your opponent (this can still be spreading)
Policy Making
- Advocacy needs to be clear. This doesn't necessarily mean a plan text.
- I won't weigh for you
Critical Theory
- You should have a ROB
- Jean Baudrillard ruined my life, and for that I am forever grateful
- I'm uncomfortable judging debate rounds centered around identity politics. You can do it and you won't lose any speaks, but these debates are harder for me to evaluate.
- Just because an activity produces meaning (a sign) does not mean it is harmful or "co-opts" something. Signs are an important part of communication, if not the entirety of it.
Theory
- I default to reasonability, no RVIs, drop the argument, and it is getting harder every day to convince me otherwise.
- Sometimes I just won't vote for your shell if I think it's really bad.
- I don't believe that Theory is not a strategy. If abuse is real, go right ahead.
- If you consider yourself a theory/tricks debater, I am not the judge for you
- I will not vote for disclosure theory in LD. However, disclosing is probably a good thing to do and parity in document access is important
- I will not vote on potential abuse.
Tricks
- don't
Lay Debate (MN Circuit)
- I don't really care much about the value debate. You could literally just say your value is "good" and I'd buy it
- The standard/criterion debate DOES matter, very much so.
- Being easy to weigh isn't a real reason why your ethics are best
Last Updated: 2/17/22
High school: MLK Magnet/Nashville UDL (2015-2019)
College: Brown University (2019-2023.5)
Email (Add me to the chain): Kaita.Igarashi@gmail.com
Pronouns: he/him
About me:
Hey what's up! I am an undergrad at Brown University who is studying Modern Culture & Media. In high school, I highly specialized in reading Puar, but I also went for Moten, Orientalism, and Set Col. Sometimes, I would read a soft-left aff and a more conventional neg strategy when it was required.
For Online Debate:
Spreading is only ok if BOTH you AND your opponent are good with it. Especially with online debates, spreading is only really accessible to those with good internet speeds and other resources like microphones, which is bad.
IF both teams are good with spreading, please only go at most 70% as fast as in person debates otherwise I'll probably miss a lot. If you're going too fast, I'll say "speed" a few times, and if you don't slow down, I'll stop flowing completely.
If you debate for a UDL:
Let me know, and I will give you any cards you ask for. Also feel more than free to reach out for strategy advice--I very much remember the frustration of being a UDL team going against schools with tons of coaches & resources.
=========Policy Paradigm=========
TLDR:
I prefer K debate, but I'd much rather you debate with whatever style you're comfortable with than trying to over-adapt to me (any good debate>bad K debate).
Truth>Tech. However, the further ahead you are on the technical debate, the lower my bar is for a truth claim. That being said, I do value a more focused, in-depth approach over blippy rebuttals with no story (judges aren't robots!).
At the end of the round, I'll vote for the best argument(s) on the central question of the debate. If neither team has a fully developed argument (claim, warrant, impact) by the time I'm writing my ballot, then I'll probably make a decision that neither team will like.
Preferences:
Examples are the way that you win ballots
Cards are usually overrated
We love clash
We love good pathos
Try not to be rude
Will give extra speaks for good prep time music
K-Affs/Framework:
I mostly read K affs in high school, but I also read framework on the neg so...
On both sides try to make sure that you are fully impacting out your arguments by the end of the debate. Fairness by itself is not an intrinsic impact.
For Aff: I think that you should probably defend a shift from the status quo.
-If you go for the counter-interpretation debate, then you should already have a coherent vision of what debate looks like under your interp for the rest of the year (i.e. tell me concretely what types of affs are included and which are excluded).
For Neg: if you only read the generic framework or framework/cap, I will only give you a maximum of 29.5 speaker points because more than that for me requires that I know that you've fully engaged with the other team's scholarship. I'll still vote on it but you might not get the speaker points that you wanted.
-I tend to view the TVA debate less as a CP vs. plan debate and more so as a theoretical argument for why a version of the aff is possible in the neg's interp.
-I'm probably more likely to be swayed by movement building standards (or really any exportable skills or methods) over vague appeals to standards that are intrinsic to debate.
-I won't vote on the small schools DA is you're from a big school.
Ks:
I am probably following you on most arguments, but this just means that I have a higher standard for your explanation. Be careful with reading too much jargon--Kritiks should never be exclusionary and only for those who "get it."
I find most "role of the ballot" arguments quite arbitrary and usually just an assertion of impact framing. Generally "role of the judge" arguments are more convincing for me because they tend to contain A. a warrant for why this framing is important and B. a coherent vision for what I should do with this framework. If you are able to contain both of those elements in a "role of the ballot" then I'll go for it. That being said, I still think framework is a very underrated argument for a neg k team to go for if you can pull it off.
Usually when I vote against the K, it is because the neg failed to do adequate link work to show why their theory of power implicates the aff.
CPs, DAs, T, etc.:
Even though I like K debate, I'm pretty comfortable with "policymaking" arguments. Just make sure that you have a coherent story and link chain by the end of the debate. If you end up missing internal-link(s), I won't give you the impact.
A substantial amount of these types of debates come down to impact framing for me.
Theory:
I'm bad at super techy theory debates, but if there's an argument that you really think is important then by all means go for it.
If you do, however, I'd appreciate it if you didn't spread through 15 subpoints at 400 wpm.
My range of reasonability changes significantly depending on what circuit I'm judging (e.g. I will probably allow more condo in the nat circuit than a locals)
==========LD Paradigm==========
I judge LD like policy except for the following:
Y'all have got to stop reading terrible arguments like tricks--seriously--if you still want to run theory 1. I default to reasonability (I won't vote on frivolous theory) 2. I really shouldn't have to say this, but I won't give you the arg if you don't have a coherent warrant 3. fairness is an internal link to education.
I like K debate, but I don't have much knowledge with philosophy debates (what is a Kant???)
I have a high threshold for evidence in LD. If you read an under-highlighted card that doesn't contain warrants or use a misrepresenting tag, I will not evaluate it.
Impact framing is very important to me. Even if both teams agree on a value/criteria you still need to tell me why you access that best.
I evaluate rounds on an offense/defense paradigm, which means if you aren't carrying any offense args into your last speech then I probably won't vote for you. I find a lot of my ballots these days being like "I vote [aff/neg] on a risk of offense b/c the [insert other team] didn't extend any offensive args through all of their speeches." Break the cycle. Read impacts. Read offense.
1.Yes I'm a tech judge, yes you can spread.
2. If your argument is "free-market capitalism is the solution to poverty," or " government regulations bad," then you're going to have to do a lot of work to convince me of that.
3. Do with that information what you will.
Also, my preferred name is Ollie and my pronouns are they/them
FJG NOV/DEC 2020 TOPIC - if as the negative you argue "the fact that the unemployed do not have skills" or "they won't want to work hard" is an impact and do not elaborate on that point i will be fairly upset. think of a better way to phrase your argument.
yes, i want to be on the email chain: izzieosorio3@gmail.com
bio: i use they/them pronouns. i'm three years out. i debated 2014-2018 in sioux falls, sd. i have experience in both trad and nat circ ld and policy. i was a 4x natl qualifier, state champion my junior year, state semi-finalist my senior year, top 50 my senior year at NSDAs and top 8 at NCFLs.
i mainly ran analytic phil (kant), critical literature (anzaldua, butler), and pomo (braidotti, haraway). i'll probably be familiar w what you throw at me (ask just in case), but as long as you have a warrant, we'll be good.
prefs:
1 kritikal/performance/non-topical (high theory 2/3)
1 phil
2 larp
4 theory/t/tricks (but feel free to challenge this)
short version: tw's are necessary, pronouns are encouraged. 6/10 on speed. i'll vote on most any argument/position as long as there is a warrant. if it gets too techy, be explicit on the flow or else i'll draw the conclusions for you. pref me if you run deeply critical/philosophical positions. i'm hesitant towards theory and if it's your a-strat you need slow down - i have more thoughts later down. send me the speech doc. be nice.
long version: as an overview, my job is to adjudicate the clash between the ideas that two debaters/teams - i'm not here to tell you what to run, i'm here to listen to the arguments you present.
that being said, run your strat and run it well. i want to hear arguments that have warrants, are impacted out in the round and interactive w your opponents args. preferably these args should be impacted to an established weighing mechanism . if neither debater does this at all, i will try to discern a decision based on the arguments in round and you probably will not be happy with how i vote.
i like critical literature, i like western phil. i like high theory, but slow down so i can catch everything. i did policy in hs and can appreciate a good aff plan/solid cp+disad strat. p much i'll listen to whatever you have to bring to the debate, so run what your most familiar/confident/strong with.
with t and theory, i didn't debate it ~incredibly often~, so i am not the most qualified to judge and have a higher threshold for voting on it. however, i have less preferences/beliefs when it comes to t/theory and will listen to whatever you have as long as it's thought-out and developed. i like strategy, but don't be absurd/unreasonable (a good t shell against a plan aff instead of a generic "aff can't run plans" interp). regardless, you're gonna need to slow down for me to catch all your args. i'll vote on spikes, but if it's your a-strat, you prolly won't get high speaks (don't do 6 mins of "they dropped 'x' spike, vote them down") - give me at least one other route to vote.
speed: if i have a speech doc, we'll be good. if i don't, just be CLEAR and LOUD and i can flow. either way, if you're like the fastest spreader on earth, bring it down to like a 6. i'll yell clear if i'm completely lost on the flow.
speaks: don't be offensive/run offensive args (e.g. racism good), you'll get an L-20
high speaks are gonna be given to well thought-out positions that are utilized in substantive/nuanced ways. debaters will have interacted w the opponents arguments intuitively and made thoughtful/strategic decisions.
just be nice to your opponent, debate is not that deep to be mean about it. if it's clear your opponent has no idea what your position is and you intentionally steamroll them i will tank your speaks.
if you have any questions, email me or ask before round. glhf :)
I am the head of LD debate at Maple Grove HS. I have been coaching for 7 years and competed in LD at Robbinsdale Armstrong High School.
Engage with the topic, impact to a v/c or standard. I don't appreciate offense that doesn't engage with the resolution, such as many theory arguments, but sometimes these sort of arguments are necessary in response to abuse. That being said I'm fine with unique approaches or worldviews as long as they are answering the resolution.
Speed is fine assuming you have the enunciation to go with it. In particular, make sure to say card names clearly.
For PF please do not try to shift your approach to fit an LD paradigm, run what you normally would and I'm probably fine with it.
I very rarely give verbal critiques or disclose.
Hello debaters:)
Please don’t use theory, K, and definitely no tricks. I value hard core traditional weighing like magnitude, timeframe, probability and etc. You need to show weighing in all parts of the debate. If you weigh very well, I will give you high speaks.
In addition, please don't speed read. If I say "clear", you have to slow down. I will say clear a max of 2 times and if you continue to spread I will deduct -2 on speaks.
Lastly, treat me like a traditional judge.
Thank you.
I coach debate at Armstrong/Cooper, did debate in high school and did well at state/attended nationals, and am familiar with a lot of argumentation.
That being said I prefer traditional LD debate (framework, extensions, weighing etc.) I will hear counterplans and progressive arguments to an extent but I am WAY more likely to buy a traditional case.
No spreading, it is exclusionary to others, no racism, hate speech, homophobia, sexism. Include trigger warnings for sexual assault, don't run sexual assault cases if possible.
Don't use other peoples trauma to win debate rounds please.
Be kind and considerate, but being assertive is fine.
Overall, just give me a clean debate with weighing and voters. If you tell me how to vote I will vote that way. thanks.