Columbia University Invitational
2022 — NSDA Campus, NY/US
JV PF Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show HideI am a parent PF judge, and a practicing attorney with more than 25 years of experience.
I believe a sound debate is about a fair, intelligible and intelligent dialogue. Speed reading off a computer screen or spreading is incompatible with such a process. Fast speakers assume the risk that I could miss some arguments/points/evidence. Additionally, if in my view you've spoken at a fast clip, I will not view unfavorably your opponent failing to respond to an argument that you have advanced.
Do not resort to speech docs. Make your case orally.
I flow arguments and strictly rely on my flowsheet. While I do not take note of points made/unmade in crossfire, I pay careful attention to astute questions and answers. Please bring up crossfire points that you would like me to flow in a subsequent speech. I am persuaded by well-structured, logical and linked arguments that are honestly supported by key pieces of evidence.
In addition to making your case, you must meaningfully engage with your opponents' case. The team advancing a contention must rejoin the issue and tell me why the opposing team's rebuttal/counter/block does not work.
In crossfire, please avoid questions with long preambles.
While, for the most part, I don't get into the weeds with cards and evidence, I may on occasion call for a piece. Teams should feel free to assail each other's evidence during the debate.
Please do not use debate jargon.
I do not like theory and K's. Hew to the topic of the day.
Keep the discourse civil. Incivility in any form will hurt your cause.
Enthusiasm for, intensity, and passion regarding the proposition you are espousing is welcome. Discourtesy or aggression against your opponents is not.
Tactical and strategic thinking in arguing, rebutting, and in crossfire is always delightful.
I appreciate clear analysis of why your contention should win the day in the summary and final focus. Further, the final focus should have all that you would like me to vote on (akin to writing my RFD for me - pros of your case and cons of your opponent's.) Lastly, all arguments and evidence that are in the final focus must have been in the summary and no new arguments in the summary speech - it is a matter of fairness.
Happy debating!
I'm a parent judge in my third year of judging debate. Please do not spread or use excessive debate jargon. Speak slowly, focusing on clarity and quality of argument over quantity. Keep your delivery organized and oriented toward a first-time listener of the topic.
Support assertions with evidence, providing context or relevance as necessary. Beyond making your case, please respond directly to your opponent's arguments. Highlight areas of contrast and points you believe to be particularly favorable to your cause. Passionate engagement is fine, but please take care to be civil and respectful.
Present a clear summation of key points made (and not made by your opponents), and why your side should prevail.
Finally, I'm not interested in Theory arguments.
I look forward to hearing you.
Hi Im Michael,
Im your typical lay judge; this is only my second tournament judging. Please don't spread, instead talk clearly at a speed I can understand you and create a cohesive narrative as to why I should vote for your team. Be respectful to your opponents if I notice you being rude I will take off speaker points.
Important: Please time/record yourselves and each other. My email for the chain is kchen0022@gmail.com
Hi I'm Kenneth! I debated 4 years of LD in high school. It's been a while since I've debated/been in a debate round, so start slower and work your way up. I don't really care what you read, but I was a LARP debater in high school so I tend to like those debates more. If you're reading a non-T aff or a high theory K, please explain what the aff/alt/method does. I'm not a huge fan of theory unless there's explicit abuse, so please don't read frivolous shells.
For Columbia:
I've only judged 2 PF tournaments ever and they were with middle school novices. I don't have any topic knowledge so I probably won't understand some acronyms/specific details. Bonus speaks if y'all can sneak NBA references bc those are always fun.
I did debate for 4 years.
I believe in weighing.
Email me your cards: ethandigi@gmail.com
I am a parent judge with experience as a federal law clerk and a corporate lawyer. I focus upon logic, persuasion, and evidence. Secondary issues are civility (required), clash (essential), and quick thinking (responsive and on-point argumentation score high).
I value quality of argument over quantity - rifles beat shotguns. I do not insert my personal views but will penalize abusive, imaginary, or hyperbolic claims. Lying with statistics or misrepresentation of evidence are also red lines. That said, teams need to take care to address every argument their opponents make; if you drop an argument, I will presume that it has been conceded, but I will listen to arguments on why conceding that argument is not fatal to your case.
As a judge, I prioritize substance over theory.
I don’t fill in the blanks on topicality. If you want to argue it, then be sure you spell it out - I will gladly listen. As for kritiks, I do not judge from a technical background -- you may run them at your own risk.
Debate is practice for citizenship. I want polite disagreement. Nothing is personal, but if you attack the other team as people, it will cost you speaker points. Being respectful is not sufficient to win, but it is necessary. Chronic poor sportsmanship, rudeness, or bad-faith interruptions can decide a round that is close on substance.
I appreciate directness, clarity, and common courtesy . Good luck and remember that debate is persuasion, not mixed martial arts.
1. No off time road map is necessary unless your organization is something out of the ordinary.
2. Speed is fine as long as your speed does not affect clarity.
3. I will flow the arguments.
4. If there is a tech problem or some interference with the sound I will stop the timer and once resolved will restart the debate and the timer where we left off.
5. I will time the debate but debaters should time themselves.
6. Please take the time to explain why your evidence is better than your opponents. For example, instead of stating "Jones, 42" which tells me nothing about the quality of your evidence state "in Jones 42, Professor of Economics at Stanford states..." This gives me information with which I can judge the quality of your evidence.
7. If you wish prep time I will start the timer and you should let me know when you are done and I will stop the timer. Do not ask for specific amount of time as often debaters request more time.
For public forum, please speak slowly and clearly. I prefer well-structured arguments with fewer sources of evidence as opposed to an overwhelming number of sources that are not clearly linked to your argument. As you present your case, define terms and abbreviations as if the audience has little to no background in this area. The final focus, closing argument, is important as I develop the Reason for my Decision.
Here are a few things I like to see in the debate:
1. PLEASE don't speak too fast. If you do, don't expect me to get all your arguments
2. Overall, be kind and have fun
Good luck, and may the best team win!
Dear Debaters,
Here is what I expect from you:
- Please speak clearly and not at high speed so that your points are understood
- Please use limited jargon
- Think through the flow and build of your arguments and ensure that you are clear on the main points you are making
- Don't just cite evidence for evidence sake, leverage it to persuade me to with explanations, citations without explanations are not persuasive
- Be respectful - of time, of your partner and opponents. Consider your tone, conduct and words.
1. Speak clearly and confidently, this goes a long way in making it easier to flow. If I can't understand or hear it, I can't write it down. Try not to spread.
2. I appreciate framing of impacts.
3. I don't judge Cross, but if concessions from cross are mentioned in speech I'll judge those.
4. I won't ask you to stop speaking but I'll stop flowing 5 seconds over the allotted speech time.
5. Know your case. There's nothing more disappointing than watching a team debate when they don't understand their own case.
6. Be respectful of your opponents. This includes the language you use in cross and speeches.
Don't stress and have fun with it. If you want more specifics ask me before the round.
I am a first-time parent judge, so I will value final focus speeches the most when deciding.
Bring up important defense and make it clear why it helps you win. I will have flowed the whole debate but making it clear why something you said back in rebuttal is important is very helpful.
Weighing is also incredibly helpful. Please weigh, and don't just spit out terms. Explain your logic and address the opponent's case specifically.
Overall, make the round as clear as you can to me! I will not flow cross, so if that is important, please bring it up in your speeches.
I am not familiar with most debate jargon. You may use it, but just make sure all your logic is fully explained. It doesn't matter if I am not familiar with the language as long as I understand your arguments.
Be respectful to your opponents.
And good luck!
hello!! please speak slowly and avoid unnecessary theory or jargon, and you will win my ballot!! :)
Hello. I'm looking forward to hearing this round. I am a parent and I'm new at judging. There are two factors that can influence my decisions. First, please talk slowly and do not use jargon, otherwise, I will not be able to follow you appropriately. Second, I expect responses to be stated respectfully. I wish you a good round and I'll see you soon.
I am a parent judge with very little experience. I value comparative analysis and well warranted arguments. Please do not make any offensive remarks and remain respectful towards your opponents throughout the duration of the round. I do not flow cross and I keep time but please keep your own time as well. Above all, have fun!
Hello Debate Scholars,
I love to see well developed and researched contentions. The more concise and endepth evidence the better. I enjoy when scholars are aware and show compassion for communities and for topics that focus on tough social and political issues. It is important for debaters to have a solid understanding of the various stories, narratives and experiences of the stakeholders involved within each issue. I appreciate culturally relevant stances that embrace and tackle deep rooted issues surrounding race, racism, discrimination, identity and equity. I most enjoy when debate scholars try their very best to present clear, concise and solution based speeches that uphold the dignity and respect for every person involved in their speech. I have been coaching middle school and high school debate for 7 years. My teams have won League, State and National Championships. It is with great honor that I am fortunate to see debate scholars who debate with love, respect and a great spirit of competitiveness for their craft.
Sincerely,
Chiara D. Fuller
For my paradigm I will be evaluating you on the strengthen of your evidence, analysis of that evidence, and your ability to connect that evidence to your overall argument. Unless specified otherwise, I will be weighing human life as the utmost important factor within the round. If you provide a separate justified framework for the round, I will take that into account. Make sure to weigh arguments against one another! Please be clear and concise during arguments and above all else show good sportsmanship.
I'm proud to say this marks my 10th year of judging Public Forum. Even though I've been doing this a long time, I still consider myself a "Mom judge," but don't despair. I will do my level best to flow the round competently.
Please give me your case in a simple, logical format and give me the reasons why I should vote for you. Please don't speak super fast, since that just makes my head spin, and I won't be able to follow your brilliant arguments as easily.
I always say, I'm okay with a little speed, but if you're talking so fast I can't make out what you're saying, that's not going to be good for you. I want to comprehend what you're telling me. If you feel like you're spoon-feeding me your case, I won't be insulted. You have plenty of flow judges to impress this tournament with fancy twists and turns.
One thing I will say is, If you don't extend an argument in summary, I can't weigh it at the end.
Lastly, please be professional and courteous to each other. No eye-rolling, tongues hanging out, general snottiness. Even if you think your opponent is on the ropes, I don't want to see it on your faces. Win with grace and class.
I am a parent PF judge and am an attorney and legal consultant.
Please make your framework clear and, when necessary, address why your framework should prevail. When you clash with your opponents, I will judge your case based on how you weigh your arguments' significance relative to your opponents' arguments.
Please do not spread (or talk too quickly). Fast speakers assume the risk that I could miss some arguments/points/evidence. Additionally, if in my view you've spoken at a fast clip, I will not view unfavorably your opponent failing to respond to an argument that you have advanced.
Citations without explanations or explanations without citations are not persuasive. Please do not use debate jargon.
Keep the discourse civil. Incivility in any form will hurt your cause. I encourage tactical and strategic thinking in arguing, rebutting, and in cross fire.
I appreciate clear analysis of why your contention should win the day in the summary and final focus. The final focus should have all that you would like me to vote on (including why I should vote for your side by explaining why the other side's arguments fail and why yours don't.)
Elkins '20 | UT '24 | UHL '27
Email: rhasib01@gmail.com
I don't have experience with this topic
I did PF for 4 years
2 gold bids 3 silver bids
Overall
- I cannot keep up with speed. I cannot keep up with speed. I cannot keep up with speed. The quality of the debate is better when its at a reasonable pace
- I dont want your speech doc
- Reading any progressive arguments (theory, tricks, Ks, etc) = L20. Please strike me if you plan on reading these types of arguments, I will not vote for you.
- Sit or stand I don't mind
- Assume I'm ready at all times unless I say otherwise
General
- Tech > Truth. I'm going to vote for the team with the least mitigated link chain into the best-weighed impact
- If you do not sign post properly, I will miss a lot of your speech. This is VERY important.
- PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE frontline first AND THEN extend the argument, otherwise it looks like ur extending through ink until you decide to frontline.
- Defense you want to concede should be conceded in the speech immediately after it was originally read. a concession requires an implication of how the defense interacts with your argument not just "we concede to the delinks"
Rebuttal
- Frontlining turns in second rebuttal are crucial, any turns not frontlined in second rebuttal have a 100% probability
- I recommend collapsing starting 2nd rebuttal but it's up to you
- You don't have to extend at all in second rebuttal, just frontlining is cool with me
- Please do not read an offensive overview in second rebuttal
Summary Overall
- Do all extensions with author names and the warrant behind them
- If you want me to vote off case offense, you have to extend uniqueness - link - impact and then you should be good
- For turns - if you want to collapse on a turn in FF the extension has to have an impact ie: if you extend a link turn you also have to extend the other teams impact
First summary
- New evidence for frontlining is ok
- Defense is not sticky even in 1st summary, mb
Second summary
- You gotta extend defense
- Weighing has to start here if you want me to evaluate it in the round
Final focus
- Still extend uniqueness link and impact
- Extend weighing
- Mirroring your partners summary is key, don't extend anything that was not in summary
Cross
- Don't forget to time cross, happens way too much
- Cross is for yall more than it is for me
- I like cross makes the debate kind of interesting
- You can skip grand cross, up to you
Evidence
- I'll only call for evidence if it's SUPER important for the decision or the other team tells me to call for it
- If you take forever pulling up evidence I will be very mad
Post Round
- I'll disclose unless tourney directors say otherwise
- I presume neg if there is no offense in the round
Donts
- Spread on novices, if its clear that you are winning just show them respect and give them a chance to learn ie: explain the implications in cross in an understanding way
- If you still for some reason want to run something progressive and are doing it for an easy ballot because you know your opponents can't respond properly, L20
Have fun and let me know if you have any questions :)
I am new to judging and am unfamiliar with debate jargon. Provided you use lay language, I am able to follow fast speech. I will judge based on how convincing the argument is presented.
Please speak clearly and do not rely on buzzwords to justify your arguments. Other than that I have no preferences. Good luck:)
Shortcut: Identity/Materialism Ks > T > Larp > Ethical frameworks or High theory Ks> Theory > Dense tricks
Please time/record yourselves and each other
Email: Sklein.debate@gmail.com
Hunter '20
I did four years of LD and qualified to the TOC twice. I taught at NSD Flagship '20, NSD Philly '20, and TDC '20. I have not judged since Yale 2021. This is my wiki from senior year.
I will evaluate any argument in the round and try to refrain from inserting my opinions as long as arguments a) have a warrant that I can explain in my decision and b) are not clearly offensive. I will not understand your position (especially philosophical/high theory ones) as well as you do. If you are reading a non-T aff or high theory K, explain what the aff/alt/method does. If an argument is important, let me know: have explicit weighing, spend time on the argument, or even tell me to highlight it on excel.
Additional preferences: https://linktr.ee/sklein.debate
PF: I am looking for the most persuasive debater given the arguments on the flow. I taught PF for four weeks at the NYCUDL and am familiar with the format, but have no background on the current topic. I am fine with speed (I neither expect nor prefer it) but would like to have the speech doc if you spread.
Name: Steve Kroepel
School Affiliation: Belvidere North High School
Number of Years Judging Public Forum: 8
What is your current occupation? Data Analyst
Please share your opinions or beliefs about how the following play into a debate round:
Speed of Delivery - brisk conversational - no faster
Format of Summary Speeches (line by line? big picture?) Big picture
Extension of Arguments into later speeches - If you want me to vote on it, yes
Flowing/note-taking - I am a flow judge as long as the round takes place at a reasonable pace and I am able to keep up, if you go faster than I can flow, and something does not end up on my flow, I will not vote on it
Do you value argument over style? Style over argument? Argument and style equally? As far as the W or L is concerned, 100% argumentation. If you can't articulate your warrant, don't expect to win on it.
If a team plans to win the debate on an argument, in your opinion does that argument have to be extended in the rebuttal or summary speeches? Yes
If a team is second speaking, do you require that the team cover the opponents’ case as well as answers to its opponents’ rebuttal in the rebuttal speech? Yes, if the round is happening at a reasonable pace, if one team sounds like an auctioneer so the other team is not able to get to all of their arguments, debating at a reasonable pace, I will not be as firm on this.
Do you vote for arguments that are first raised in the grand crossfire or final focus? No.
I am a first time judge.
Please speak slowly and clearly and explain your points fully and logically.
Please treat your debate opponents with respect.
Hello. This is Xiaojin Liu and I'm a parent judge at Newton South High School. I prefer logical and concise presentation. I will judge on both the content and how the content to be delivered. I vote for the team that show direct evidence to support your arguments.
Judging Criteria
Clarity of the speech: Not too fast (please don't do 200 wpm), not too slow. I am flowing the entire session with all of you, so I appreciate everyone do not miss any important contentions.
Facts and figures: Whenever you cite a number, please include the source. Reputable sources command a higher winning score. Your interpretation of the source is required, don't just quote it without explaining how it validates your position.
Professionalism: I pay special attention to all speakers' eloquence, being aggressive is okay, but not personal insults. Confident speakers usually come with well-prepared speeches, and I look forward to an educational exchange of rebuttals and crossfire.
Points: All speaker points start from 27, and extra points are awarded for logical links, extending good warrants, and impacts.
I appreciate it if you could connect the dots for me, as to why your contentions make more sense compared to your opponents.
I will not call for cards unless I need them for my flow verification.
Content warnings for sensitive topics need to be disclosed at the very beginning.
"I have little to no understanding of theory, run it at your own risk!"
I am a parent judge who has been judging since the 2020-2021 academic year. I do not like speed in debate - if you speak too quickly I will not be able to follow your contentions. Please speak clearly and be clear about where you are on the flow. I do not like off-topic debate. Please debate the topic at hand. Also, I do not like theory arguments - please debate the topic at hand.
I used to do PF for Regis High School. I go to Columbia now.
Don't be mean. Don't misrepresent evidence. Quality of args over quantity is def preferable.
I'm an undergraduate junior at Columbia Engineering. I have no current involvements with PF, but competed in PF for 4 years in high school, and Parliamentary for ~1 year. While I don't mind a more 'technical' approach to PF debates (e.g. speed-reading as much evidence as possible), I do appreciate a more accessible/traditional style of delivery, as I feel it makes for better quality discourse overall. In that vein, I appreciate good signposting & weighing in speeches, especially as rounds go on & the overall amount of information that's been brought up grows. Otherwise, I'm pretty flexible with how things go.
I did debate in high school for three years and I currently coach LD.
i honestly just care about detailed debating tell me how the k links specifically play with the aff pr maybe on the DA fully explains how the aff triggers the internal links to the impact. Just do good debate in front of me and I’ll have fun judging you, I competed at a national level my senior year reading bataille and anti blackness literature so literally do whatever you want in front of me from 7 off cp da strat to a one off k.
Email: Dashy98@gmail.com for the chain!
Good Luck Debaters,
I look forward to listening to your debate.
It will help me to listen well and make decision if you could
- speak clearly, slowly
- demonstrate team work within your team
- respect your opponent team
- show passion towards your case through precise arguments
Hi! This is her daughter! My mom is a typical lay judge whose main focus when choosing the winner is on HOW you speak (a.k.a DELIVERY OF SPEECH).
She listens to the quality of responses > quantity and also flows down which responses you extend through final focus.
Have fun! :))
I take detailed notes (flow) during the debate. I do not flow cross examinations. If seeing a specific piece of evidence is relevant to the decision I will ask for it. I care about logic and the strength of link chains. The quality of evidence matters. Please extend arguments through the debate. A dropped argument will not hold. The speed arguments are delivered is only an issue when words become garbled and unintelligible. Thus, be very careful spreading if you chose that method. Please try to use all of the time allocated to you. It is easier for me to follow a debate when I can see the debaters. Have fun and respect the art of debate!
Did Policy and PF for 4 years. Comfortable with any argument, be innovative!
If you can ever "that's what she said" me, you get 30 speaks, if you do that to your opponents more than 3 times, 30 speaks and I presume for you. That would be based.
I want all speech docs where evidence is read to be on the chain. (all constructive speeches 1AC/1NC 2AC/2NC. That's rebuttal for you kids). If you don't have ev for the 2AC/2NC well ummmmm ya. I won't look at it but it is for evidence exchange purposes. srikartirumala@gmail.com.Add both to the chain!
Don't ask me to verify I'm there before every speech. I want to flow, not keep unmuting. Just assume I'm always ready.
Philosophy:
I am a fairly tab judge who operates solely on an offense/defense paradigm. Tech>truth to the fullest. I will do no work for you as that's your job (so I won't even implicate defense for you as terminal). You do you -- don't change how you debate for me. I will adapt to your style (unless your style does not hit the basics like extensions, comparative weighing etc.)
Do not
1. Any -isms. Just be a good person it's not hard. For the people who read "racism is a democratic value kick people off social media" this is you!
2. Bad ev. You will not win a round trying to fake ev in front of me if it is called out. For me faking or misrepresenting ev is as good as cheating and all your opponents need to say is "it's a voter for education/fairness/legit anything". And I'll hack. But you need the prove the evidence is actually bad IN ROUND. Ie - it's not enough to say "It's faked" U must say "It is faked because of X reason -- that's cheating and it's a voter for fairness/education".
I do not like
1. Paraphrasing
2. "Discourse" as solvency. I'm sick of it and probably will insta delete your "K" from the flow. Have a real alt / well thought out method.
3. No speech Docs.
4. "Probability weighing". This is just reading empirics, anything else is just a link mitigation or a no link argument and ways smooth brained teams with bad rebuttals can sneak new defense into summary @Sarvesh babu looking at you.
5. Claiming any progressive stuff isn't "public in public forum" I will laugh at you during RFD whilst playing Laughing to the bank. If you're in varsity, you should be prepared to deal with all the arguments no matter what.
This part is stolen from THE beach
***If you are in varsity at a TOC bid tournament, I will by NO MEANS evaluate a "we do not understand theory or K/theory or K excludes me because I don't know how to debate it" response. In fact, I will give you the lowest speaker points the tournament reasonably permits-- you're perpetuating horrible norms in this activity. Do not enter the varsity division of tournaments if you are unwilling to handle varsity level argumentation. ***
As an aside to this ^, if you a reason why theory/ K is bad, I won't automatically intervene but your speaks are GONE and I will legit buy "bruh what the heck is this it allows for bad norms" and then strike it off my flow. This is one of the worst takes I've ever heard, and I'm really sick of people perpetuating the narrative that "public forum should be for the public" or whatever dumb thing boomers in this activity who are afraid of anyone that isn't a cishet white male doing well in the activity propagate. I also will not buy any "people don't know how to disclose or access wikis" it's just blatantly untrue and disrespectful to small school debaters. It's not a response -- it's just you not knowing how to interact. this is the one spot I feel 0 shame in intervening, I will laugh at you while I do it and play Laughing To The Bank by Chief Keef while I read the decision.
I like these
- Theory (but not stupid and friv)
- Kritical args (But actually with solvency not DiScOuRsE)
- Framing / Meta Weighing
- I errheavily towardsparaphrasing being bad, speech docs being good, and disclosure being good, and will evaluate procedurals based on that.
- Lots of explanation on what's happening in the flow (I won't do any work, if you don't tell me why it's important or what to do with it it's nothing)
Why do I care so much about good ev?
I've had teams straight fake ev against me and it hurts. As a researcher the skills you get from research in debate is unparalleled to other activities. Faking evidence is akin to cheating, and this is a competitive activity. There's y'alls little procedural.
Strike me if you
1. Fake evidence / do not cut your cards (you know who you are)
2. Think I'm going to buy your "persuasive appeal" BS, speaks are a construct and don't matter in a W/L
3. You are going to run problematic arguments, I won't deal with them. I don't like to intervene on the flow, but I will in these cases. I might even physically stop the round depending on how bad it is.
Arguments:
1-5. 5 means I love
LARP: 5
Go crazy, idc. I mostly LARPed in HS
Framework: 4.5
- not much to say, I read fw in HS a lot. I never really did LD, so if I'm in judging it, please explain phil? I'm actually really confused and bad at phil debate. Tbh, if i'm judging you and you are going to read phil, please just treat me as a lay judge (just on the fw, u can spread or do w/e later).
T/Theory: 5
- If I believe theory is frivolous, I might not give you good speaks. Make sure it's accessible. I used to read theory like crazy in HS. I am 100% fine if you read it in shell or paragraph form, that's your choice.
- I completely tab on most theory args unless it's p obvious it's friv against K or against a novice. I'mma hold you to a high burden when it comes to extensions in these cases. I tend to err towards paraphrase bad and disclosure good but I will not hack at all. I've read both paragraph theory and shell in HS so I'm ok with w/e u are. If you are in Policy./LD where there are a billion different AFFs, I think disclosure is definitely a good norm. If you are in Policy/LD I expect better. if you paraphrase in any event ur speaks are gone.
Dude, Condo is Dispo don't try and cap otherwise.
K : 4
- I started reading more Kritical arguments my senior year, this being said, any argument can be explained properly. I tend to err towards K over T, but I'll be tab. High theory is fine dumb it down. If I'm confused over the K, it means ur OV or your extension wasn't good enough or explained well, and I'll probably vote on something cleaner.
- Note, I rarely read K in policy, I was more of a LARPER, but I will probably understand most of what you are saying if you bother to try to explain it to me. This means get rid of a lotta the K-specific jargon "e.g. state of exception". I'll understand some of the stuff i'm familiar with but still be careful. In policy / LD though you need to really explain the K. I’m going to be lost if ur just spreading cards. The 1NR/2NC needs to have REALLY good OV extension that REALLY explains your theory.
- I am fairly familiar with most K lit. I read Set Col, Sec, Orientalism, Imperialism, Neolib, Biopolitics/Biopower, but I'll buy k about anything just PLEASE don't just spread ur usually jargony OV. Very familiar with most IR terms / list
This is my hot take, I don't like identity AFFs that much in PF. Trust me, I am VERY VERY HAPPY to vote them up, and often do, just know I don't really like how it's being done in PF where I can't tell WHAT SOLVENCY IS! If you do it right I'll enjoy it.
Plans/CP : 5
- IN ANY EVENT These are perfectly ok in my mind, I will buy a good plan bad theory tho. All u have to prove is that the plan potentially could be viable, some sort of implementation or actor and I think the theory doesn't apply. I am fine if u just tell me a counter plan to the AFF/Neg, and defend that it's good. Rules are meant to be broken if they are bad so a response to a CP can't be "NsDa RuLeS sAy No CP" give me a reason why I should uphold that norm.
- I prolly think process CPs are another method of doing the plan.
- I think infinite condo on CPs are bad
DA: 5
- All good,weigh them!
Trix: 3
If you want me to vote neg on presumption/AFF risk of solvency/1st speaking team -- warrant out why, don't just yell this. Aka IL how how the trick applies to your presumption, lot of people, miss this. Don't j be like "EMPIRICUS 2 BC *Breath* fehhfuiewhfewhfewfhewewh. Ok next trick"
I think especially in PF this is a bad strat but in LD / Policy I guess I get it a bit more.
I started keeping tally of how many times I voted for Trix: IIIIIIII
Speed: 4
- PF spread fine, I am cool with full policy spread, just make tags distinct from cards ("AND", Slow down). If you aren't sure how distinct your tags are from cards, just speech doc. Also make sure the opponent can understand, or speaks might be hurt. I will call clear twice, then I will give up. People ask what I can flow, I can probably flow up to 300 wpm without a speech doc with card names.
- I will probably not need to use your doc, make your tags really clear, and if ur not clear when spreading I will clear you. if I clear your thrice, your are capped at a 27.
Performance/Non T AFFs : 4
You need to make the ROTB very clear and win it. also PLEASE READ A LINK! Why is the ballot needed? What is my role as the judge? Also like how does ur case link into the ROTB? Make it very clear. Honestly I tend to err K > T so this might be a good strat, but make sure you are ready to win the AFF. Also please tell me why your method is uniquely key.
- If you are hitting a non T aff it isn't enough to tell me the rules are something I must maintain, I say screw the rules unless u tell me why the rules are good.
- Tbh if there isn't a CLEAR method / solvency you're capped at a 26
Presumption:
- Absent presumption warrants given in speech, I default to whoever lost the coinflip.
TKOS: 2
- saves us all time. Typical rules apply, if there's a path to the ballot, you L20, if none, W30. I won't stop round ever -- but if you're right I'll be like ok and stop flowing. Don't really like tho there's always a chance u drop the ball but if u call one go for it. DO NOT LIKE THESE but I'll consider the following
1. A procedural on no speech docs is a TKO vs a team that does not disclose or a team that spreads random paraphrased stuff -- if it's dropped
2. Bad evidence is a TKO -- treat this similar to an NSDA challenge if the ev is crap call it out I won't like it
3. No cut cards is a TKO if it's conceded.
4. Problematic language is a TKO. This includes repeated misgendering or anything of that form. I don't understand why some judges DON'T make this a TKO?
5. Any IVI on a team that says "prefiat offense is bad" is basically a TKO, I won't stop round but lol I'm not going to flow responses to it.
6. Bad haircuts is a TKO. I don't wanna look at your receding hairline. My kids know what I'm talking about. (obviously a joke)
Hello,
I am a parent of a debater and this is my first year judging. It would be helpful, if possible, for people to speak at a slower pace. In terms of my background, I work in the data analytics field having worked for large software enterprise companies and e-commerce outfits, mining data for insights that a broad range of an audience, from the uninformed to the well-informed, can digest and find actionable.
thank you!
John.
I'm Lindsey, I have some past experience judging and coaching public forum debate.
My Paradigm
I will vote for the team that presents a stronger logical argument. I will consider arguments on quality of evidence presented, arguments speaking to why your case is impactful, and strength of responses to the opposition's argument.
The New York Post Article
I want to clarify a few things as succinctly as I can for future reference.
1) I do not condone banning topics from discussion or any judging style that automatically disregards a topic based on the subject matter. I have always been open to discussing difficult topics and will continue to be an advocate of freedom of speech.
2) In high school, I did not have access to many debate resources and did not regularly compete at national circuit tournaments (usually we had around 5 teams per tournament). Because of this, I often found advising and judging from online paradigms, forums, or message boards. When I became a Judge briefly, parts of my paradigm were meant to give free advice related to style and decorum. The main point I wanted to convey is that being respectful and genuine about presenting arguments leads to more persuasive argumentation. Contrastingly, utilizing provocative arguments only for the purpose of shocking a judge and winning is less fulfilling. I apologize if my language came across the wrong way, debaters should have the freedom to explore any topic they want. Additionally, this was targeted specifically to theory and K debate, where debaters often have no advanced preparation of what the topic is going to be.
3) I do not support the recent publication of videos of debaters with the intention to shame their argument style. Every debater deserves the autonomy to make arguments that they want without fear of being cancelled or harassed on twitter. I think we should all try to be more open-minded about different ideas and understand that young people will often make mistakes and grow from them. Be respectful, engage with people in a good-faith way, and allow students the space to change their mind.
4) A good lesson for debate (and life) is to always try to understand nuance and different perspectives. I hope that anyone that reads any article (especially an article of this nature) would be intrigued enough to learn more, to contextualize their information, and to understand evidence before drawing conclusions. I will post the full conversation I had with James below for context.
Hi Lindsey: I am writing an article for The Free Press about judging bias in the NSDA. This bias is illustrated by Tabroom paradigms that tell students what they can and can’t say on the basis of politics and ideology.
I am reaching out because you along with other judges and the NSDA are the focus of my reporting. I will be publishing your name and your Tabroom paradigm below. In the interest of fairness and accuracy, I would like to provide you with the opportunity to comment and answer the following questions. I am reporting on the following comment from above:“...if you are white, don't don't run arguments with impacts that primarily affect POC. These arguments should belong to the communities they affect.” 1. What is an example of an argument that you believe a white student could not run because of their race? 2. Why did you eliminate this statement about race from your most recent paradigm update? If you could provide a response by9PM Eastern today (Fri, May 12), that would allow sufficient time for your comments to be incorporated. Best, James T. Fishback --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hey James! I don’t know if it’s exactly my place to say what arguments will/won’t make marginalized communities feel unsafe in the debate space and that’s one reason I updated my paradigm. I want it to ultimately be the debater’s decision, but I want to ensure a team that is directly affected by the argument is comfortable discussing it in the debate space. Another reason I eliminated this sentence was because I incorporated a similar idea in my section about progressive debate and I feel it captures the main idea better: I think debaters should communicate before the round to make sure both teams are aware of what topics will be discussed and are comfortable with it. In essence, I think arguments that may be super hard to argue for communities that are directly involved with the impacts should be discussed prior to the round to ensure debate is fun for everyone. My goal isn’t to “eliminate free speech”, but to have both teams be able to have a productive and fun debate. This kinda goes along with my first comment, but I didn’t eliminate the idea itself. I wanted to clarify later in my paradigm that students should notify one another to see if their opponents are comfortable with a proposed topic. I think these topics are important to be discussed, but not when one team is using the argument as a means to get a win without considering the feelings/experiences of their opponents (especially if their opponents are directly affected by the impact).
I am happy to clarify anything else if needed! Best, Lindsey Shrodek
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Thanks Lindsey! This is helpful
Re: "I want to ensure a team that is directly affected by the argument is comfortable discussing it in the debate space." If, before a round, a team of black students expresses discomfort about their non-black opponents' case because it details the impacts of defunding the police on black families, would the non-black team still running that argument without consideration for the experiences of their opponents factor into how you chose the winner/assigned speaks?
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I consider everything that happens in round. The goal of debate is to be a productive, positive-sum experience for everyone, and debaters need to be considerate of that goal when deciding how to run an argument and whether to run it at all. You can look at my updated paradigm if you want more information as the one you have is nearly two years old.
Best, Lindsey Shrodek
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If you want to know where my intentions lie, please know that I intend to judge every round to its entirety, regardless of subject matter, that is why I wrote to James: "I consider everything that happens in a round." Thank you for reading! :)
Background: Currently a second-year out, debated 3 years of Public Forum on US national circuit.
Online Debate Specific: Please be clear and articulate. Online debate is hard for everyone - please tell a story that doesn't involve a million complicated link chains and don't try to spread your cards.
eming.shyu@yale.edu is the best email for evidence email chains.
General:
Here are the questions that I seek the answers to at the end of a round:
1. Where am I voting?
2. How can I vote there?
3. Why should I vote there instead of elsewhere?
Above all else, be clear and explain - that means giving me clear voting issues and not going for everything, extending and explaining warrants (don't extend through ink), and impact out whatever you want me to vote on. Comparative analysis will be crucial for my ballot because I really don't want to do the work for you - on the link level, that means telling me why I should prefer your link story; for responses, that means explaining why I should prefer your response/turn over their argument; on the impact level, that means WEIGHING. Both sides are probably going to be winning some argument - so please tell me why what/where you are winning is more important and enough to win my ballot.
I prefer to look at substance more than anything else - so I am very unlikely to evaluate theories and Ks unless there is a real need for it. I don't normally flow cross, but if something is important bring it up in speech. Lastly, please be kind to each other.
I'm a junior at Columbia University and have run tournaments for the Columbia Debate Society! I did not do debate in high school and thus am not too familiar with LD or PF—though I've judged PF before. However, for the past three years, I've been competing and judging in college debate (American Parliamentary).
As for debating preferences...I love sign-posting and extensive weighing/warranting for your weighing!
Things I love a lot less: spreading, over-emphasis on evidence/"cards," under-emphasis of warranting and logical reasoning, "off-time" roadmaps. But on the whole, I'm pretty accommodating of different debating styles.
I am a parent judge that is new to debate, aka lay judge which means I am not familiar with debate jargon.
Please do not spread, it does not matter how great your argument or evidence is if I cannot adequately understand you.
Signposting is very important for me to follow your arguments.
Lastly please be nice and courteous to each other.
Lets make the best of today - We all had other options to spend our weekend. We are here by choice. So put your best foot forward!
Yes, I am a lay judge or rather a term I prefer - "citizen judge". FWIW: I have been judging PF for last 4+ years.
I enjoy judging and come to the table with open mind. I leave my pre-conceived notions outside, and do not check your record prior to the round.
So what do I value:
* If I can't understand you, I can't flow for you, so please speak slowly, clearly and loudly. No spreading, please.
* Simplicity of thought and explanation, BUT focus on specifics. Especially, during cross-X, I love when team not just "ask for the card" but know the weaknesses of the research and exploit it.
* It helps me to flow your speech if you give me an off time roadmap, so please do so. If you have any questions, ask me before the round starts.
* Its an intellectual fight. Dont shy from it. But the best team are those who don't "spike the ball" after scoring touchdown. Lets be civil.
* I will NOT do your job - I m here to judge, not debate. If an opponent does not point a flaw in argument, I will accept it.
* PL do not - appear dismissive (leave your eyerolls outside) or rude. Its distracting and unprofessional. I will ding u points, but not the outcome (so ironic).
* I know things like theory and kritiks are starting to show up in PF, but I am not the right judge for that kind of argument. I will only vote on the substance of the resolution.
PS - Sorry if I said your name incorrectly, or used wrong pronouns. Please correct me.
I'm new to judging Public Forum, having judged Speech for the last four years.
I ask that you speak slowly and clearly. Present arguments/points of view that address your position, supported by an adequate amount of evidentiary citations. Please try to be concise and to the point.
Please avoid a rapid delivery of arguments followed by a lot of citations which will make it difficult for me to follow and understand you. You can be firm and forceful in your positions, but not aggressive in your demeanor.
update for hs parli:
I debated nat circuit LD in HS so I'm familiar with progressive arguments, but I never debated HS parli. I've judged a few parli rounds and have an understanding of the general structure, but I probably don't know the intricacies of the event.
updated for Columbia:
I debated for Millburn HS (graduated in 2020) and was pretty involved in high school circuit LD, attending TOC my junior year. However, I haven't judged or coached since January 2021, and I'm particularly not used to online debate, so I don't have a great idea of the norms of the community (and certainly not the topic).
pref wise:
- mostly read policy-style arguments and theory, but I'm open to all arguments that are 1] warranted and 2] not abhorrent, and I'm most impressed by debaters who engage in their opponents' arguments and know their lit base
- that being said, in order of how comfortable I am evaluating debates (not preference judging):
theory > larp = t > phil = tricks > k