Shawnee Mission South Debate Invitational
2022 — Overland Park, KS/US
Student Judges Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show Hideput me on the email chain!!!!! (before round starts preferably) -- greta.smsdebate@gmail.com
she/her -- fourth year @ Shawnee Mission South
tldr: i am a policy bro that reads Ks on the neg. i will vote for anything, don't be racist or transphobic
good things:
- clash
- line by line
- impact calc!!!
- extending past arguments
bad things
- rudeness
- reading cards that don't serve a purpose
- not understanding your argument
shawnee mission south '24 (❤️)
university of kentucky ‘28
i can flow.
i will vote you down on cops, israel, genocide, any of the isms, or death good
read almost explicitly all K’s (no pomo) in high school except for the fall of senior year — idc what u read
being mean in cross is icky
be kind and smart for good speaks
also i have no idea what this hs topic is so don’t expect i know ur jargon
for online:
speak a bit slower.
i won’t penalize you for not sending analytics but it’ll make it easier for me to process what you say if we are online.
shawnee mission south '23,university of southern california ‘27
i endorse doing line by line and minimizing reliance on the document in front of you to give your final rebuttal.
new rule: if you ask for a marked copy when less than 3 cards were marked and/ or have to clarify what ev was read without taking cx or prep, your speaks ceiling is a 27.
ld:
if phil or tricks, no.
if anything else, yes.
if aff, t does not go before case in the 1ar.
add me to the email chain
she/her
bvn ’24 – northwestern ’28 (not debating)
feel free to ask me any questions!
Hi ! I am Kiley Chartrand and I am a junior in high school. This is my third year in debate. I love analytical over cards any day. Eye contact is a big must for me to put you as the first speaker. Biggest reminder is to talk to me, not to each other. This is about learning, not winning ! Be nice to each other you both are people with emotions.
(feel free to email me about questions !)
-- Info --
email chain - austin.n.davis15@gmail.com
Lansing High School '23 / GMU '27
NDT qual x1
-- Truth over Tech -OR- Tech over Truth --
Tech >>>>>>>>>>Truth
-- DAs --
I don't have any specific preferences on what type of DA you choose to read. As long as you are taking time to clearly articulate a solid link/internal link chain story you'll be alright. Additionally, PLEASE impact out why your impact should be favored (i.e. why your ! o/w, how your ! means their impact can't be solved, etc). Once again no real preferences so do as you please.
-- CPs --
I mean, its a CP so I don't have any preferences besides, please don't read a CP-text w/o a solvency advocate. I'm just going to flow it as an analytic, so the Aff better punish them for this. Make sure you got a solid net-bene or I'm probably going to defer Aff on the perm pretty fast.
-- T -- policy v policy
Now I'll be real with you. I don't like topicality, I find those debates very boring. That doesn't mean I won't evaluate it, and if you are losing on T don't think I'm going to let that slide just cuz I don't like Topicality. With that being said, if you don't need to, please don't read T with me in the back. If its blatantly obvious, then go ahead. Regardless I won't tell you what to do, its your choice.
-- K --
I read afro-pess, afro-futurism, vampiric necropolitics, Taoism, queerness, cap, + ableism in HS. But by no means do I know everything about all of these topics, just enough so that I understand the language and general theory you will be arguing. So make sure you are taking the time to explain your theory, what it means for the round, and what my voting Neg is going to do to resolve or address these impacts. The most important part of the K debate is the link debate. Please try to have topic-specific links. Links of omission (the Aff doesn't mention X-thing so they exclude it) are not good links, but sometimes are all you have. So, if the Aff doesn't bring it up, then I'll give it to you but if they do, you better have a valid reason why you should get this link; but that'll be tough. Rejection alts are alts. MAKE SURE whether your impacts are physical or metaphysical that they are contextualized and impacted out in the round, this is where you will win SO MANY DEBATES. I am a lot more persuaded to vote for an alt that solves or mitigates the impacts of the Aff in some way. Lastly, I'm not gonna kick the alt for the team. If you don't want it, do it yourself.
sidenote: would love to see some KvK rounds :D
-- K Aff --
- have a strong TOP, winning this will keep you in almost every debate you have
- i'd prefer the aff have a topic link, without one, FW becomes very convincing. It doesn't mean I'll vote Neg on FW 100% of the time, but you'll need to really articulate why not having one is good. So, make it easier on me, urself, and your opponents, and jus have a topic link, so get creative. [example #1: Is the topic about nukes? (queerness) nuclear family bad, (anti-blackness) resolution is a nuclear bomb on black folks in the community, etc - example #2: Is the topic about the econ? (queerness) debate = libidinal econ = violent, (anti-blackness) black markets, etc.]
- Judge instruction!!! what is my role as the judge? why do you need the ballot? does the ballot resolve ur impacts? why is this round key? 2ARs, I need you to draw a clear path to aff ballot and tell me what tf u need me to do.
- You should know/understand your Aff, if you don't get it you prolly shouldn't read it.
-- Clash Debates / T-FW --
I'm going to vote for who T-FW. At the end of the debate, you need to be clearly explaining how your interp creates the best model of debate. I think limits and clash are very compelling impacts. Fairness isn't an impact, its a I/L (but if you win fairness is an ! that o/w the aff need for being, good for u, but it'll be an up hill battle).
if aff, make sure you are impact turning T to use the Aff to leverage offense on FW
Unasked for opinion: I think these debates can provide a much-needed discussion about the current state and future of this activity and what debate could and should look like. At the end of the day, we need to realize that debate is what we make it, and at the end of the round, rather than seeing each other as opposites due to debate style that instead we are all just people here who care about debate and want to grow. So, please stick together, and have fun in these debates, because these will be some of the most educational conversations you will have.
Goodluck!!!
He/Him
Don't read so fast that I cannot understand you
If you are disrespectful in any way to your opponents you will most likely not win
I have a lazy eye
I am chill
Hi I am Caroline (she/her)
E-mail for Chain: carolinedebatesms@gmail.com
4th year SMS 23
Novices: read good ev and extend it + Be confident and have fun
LHS '23
KU '27
For email chain: michaelim2005@gmail.com
Policy General
Debate is a game that can be more than a game, and the ballot is a tool that can be more than signifying win/loss
Disclosure is good (and something that everyone should be doing), and file share is even better (something that everyone should also be doing)
IMPORTANT: Any amount of intended bigotry will result in 0 speaker points and an immediate L, so don't be a terrible person and we won't have a problem
PLEASE ask questions. If you don't understand what my paradigm is talking about, ask me before round
Speed is only a problem once it becomes unreasonable for your opponent(s) to compete. For me, don't worry about going too fast--that doesn't mean you should go as fast as possible--signposting is important
don't be a terrible person
Theory
I love theory and will weigh it first. That doesn't mean that that will be an easy win. Voters need to be extended and are always a reason to reject the arg (only exception is condo)
condo is the only argument I would consider a viable theory 2ar
T
T is very important and I am easily swayed by standards debate. If I am not directed, I'll default to competing interps and weigh the debate from there
Reasonability isn't being reasonably topical. Reasonability is that the aff causes a reasonable amount of abuse
T is generally not an rvi
DA
I'm chill with linear da's or 2 card da's
DO IMPACT CALC & TURNS--that includes how the internal link chain should factor in impact calc
Brevity is still good and doesn't mean you need a 3 minute o/v
CP
Competition theory is important.Solvency is not an internal net benefit and isn't a reason to vote for the counterplan--that includes impact calc
There is no such thing as a cheating counterplan if the aff doesn't read theory. I don't care how abusive the cp is and I will vote on it given that aff offense is lacking
If you're going for a meme/joke advocacy, run it as a k--that makes it funnier on k proper and framework
K
I love kritiks. They are wonderful and are some of my favorites args, but framework is important. If fmwk is conceded, then I can't vote on the k.
Severance is very persuasive on the perm level. I will understand most arguments and it's more likely than not that I kick the arg because I believe severance happens
I debated set col, psychoanalysis, and cybernetics k debate. Don't assume I'm familiar with the lit. I've researched some wacky k's before (STEM, anthro, hauntology, pearl harbor, deleuze, baudrillard, cioran, todestrieb, matrix, etc.) but that doesn't mean I will automatically understand the k
Kicking the alt is bad unless fmwk permits it
I like rejection alts, but material and educational solvency need to be won (depending on fmwk interps)
K Aff
I've experimented with k affs and run a few, but know this: I love them. I'm not a professional, so I need the aff story to be consistent and have a clear reason and strong offense as to why rejecting a plan text is necessary
The advocacy needs to be clearly articulated and have solvency
T is a generic neg strategy, so please spice things up with unique offense other than debate bad--I won't devalue the args if they're generic--although I do believe k affs are good for debate (but who cares if neg is winning the t flow)
Weighing the aff fmwk vs neg k fmwk is messy and typically devolves to impact calc--do that plus compartmentalize
Case
I'm not a fan of primarily stock issues paradigms, but if the round doesn't provide me anything else, I will become a stock issues judge. Inherency, harms, solvency, and t are important
If the aff is exceptionally bad, case 2nr's are fine, but make sure there's offense to talk about instead of exclusively defense
I think human extinction good is a funny arg, but will only weigh it as a joke and possibly as an rvi if the opposition makes genocide/bigotry turns
BTW, I consider impact calc to have 2 levels: the in round impacts and the imaginary fiat impacts and I weigh in round impacts over fiat impacts
Fun fact, kicking the aff can be strategic (and funny), but prob shouldn't be done
Again, ASK QUESTIONS BEFORE ROUND IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING
LD General
I debated LD for 4 years in high school, have gone to nationals and was the 2023 5A state champ, so I have quite a few feelings about the activity
The most valuable part of LD is time: maximize offense and be concise always or you'll lose
I debated pure offense in LD: everyone else's value/criterion is problematic and maximize offense on the contention debates
V/Crit
i believe the value is the primary lens through which the round is voted on and the criterion is the means or thesis the case achieves the value
clash on v/crit is super underrated and makes the debate really easy to win
defense is mid for me because i don't have a clear reason to prefer one or the other without sufficient offense
Contention debate
i interpret the contention debate as your opportunity to meet the criterion by a preponderance of the evidence and will frame impacts as implicit reasons opposing value/criterion structure doesn't work
contentions can take the form of policy speeches or kritiks, but i'd prefer if they were formatted appropriately: don't run policy debate offcase, just read it on case or make it a main contention
topicality is rare, but if the violation is egregious without counter definitions, i'll allow it
Again, ASK QUESTIONS BEFORE ROUND IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING
3 year varsity debater at Shawnee mission south
I will flow, run any args u want, i like Ks
my email: benjamin.imhoff1@gmail.com
Hi my name is Madison Kujawa, i'm a senior at Shawnee Mission South and this is my fourth year in debate
Pronouns (she/her)
Call me Madison instead of judge
Heres my email in case you have questions later: Mkujawa05@gmail.com
Basic things: Speech drop or email chain is good, I prefer speech drop but whatever works, do not steal prep, flows are good, do them right, don't say they dropped something when they didn't I will also be flowing. Most importantly do not be mean to the other team, any racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, ableism, or any form of hate to the other team will not be tolerated and will result in loss of the debate and I will be talking to coach's.
actual debate stuff:
DA: Yes love them
CP: Yes love them
T: Yes if explained well
aff: do whatever just explain why its important
K: i'm not super familiar but if explained well I see no problem with it
Please explain to me why I should vote for you provide analytics/impact calc
If any thing above is unclear or need more clarification on something please ask:)
I've done high school policy debate for four years, and I've judged on and off for the past couple years. I'm very much a flow judge. If on my flow the Aff has successfully answered all negative arguments by the end of the debate they'll win, and if the Neg still has an argument left standing on the flow at the end they'll win. I enjoy both fast paced rounds full of theory and K's, and slower traditional style rounds. So you can debate however you're comfortable.
email chain -- jaymepick5170@gmail.com
(she/her)
current varsity high school debater (3 years)
don't be hateful or discriminatory -- any racism, homophobia, sexism, etc. will be an automatic loss
TRY UR BEST!!
Hello! My name is Aarushi Pore (she/her) I am a current 4-year debater at Olathe North High School who currently debates Open/KDC, but I have experience debating in all divisions.
Add me to the email chain if you are making one!! ♥︎
You will automatically lose the round in my eyes and get reported to your coaches if you make any personal attacks toward your opponents. PLEASE remember to be kind and respectful to EVERYONE in the room, be confident in your arguments, and have fun!! ˙ᵕ˙
Argumentation:Don't run an argument just to run an argument - I have experience in running all kinds of arguments from DAs to Ks, so if you run something, I will probably understand it, but please have knowledge about what you are talking about! Trust me, it is very obvious and not pretty when teams do not know about the arguments they are running. I am not going to vote for you just because you ran a top-level argument like a K - you need to do the proper analysis for it. Analysis is very important to me in the round - explain the arguments you are introducing so that I know you are aware of what you are talking about and not just reading off of a computer screen. At the end of the day, I will vote for any argument as long as you explained the importance of how it functions in the round properly.
Clash:I absolutely LOVE clash in a debate round! Run those on-case arguments, pick through their evidence with analytics, run an argument that directly takes down their argument! ADDRESS YOUR OPPONENTS' ARGUMENTS AND ANSWER THEM! Clash is what makes a debate round fun!!
Speed:I am ok with faster speed as long as you are clear on taglines! However, if you are unclear - please slow down! And I will let you know if I cannot understand you.
Debate is a high school activity, so please don't take it so seriously and be kind - being rude gets you literally nowhere. You all are young adults, so I expect you to show maturity and professionalism in your rounds. Thanks and good luck! You got this! ◝(ᵔᵕᵔ)◜
Winner of last year's CFL in policy debate!!!!!
(Assistant) Coach @ Shawnee Mission South
Put me on the email chain :) jrimpson123@gmail.com
TLDR:
Judge instruction, above all else, is super important for me – I think this looks differently depending on your style of debate. Generally, I think clear instruction in the rebuttals about where you want me to focus my attention and how you want me to filter offense is amust. For policy teams I think this is more about link and impact framing, and for more critical teams I think this is about considering the judge’s relationships to your theory/performance and being specific about their role in the debate.
For every "flow-check" question, or CX question that starts with a variation of "did you read..." I will doc you .1 speaker points. FLOW DAMNIT.
General:
I am flexible and can judge just about anything. I debated more critically, but read what you're most comfortable with. I will approach every judging opportunity with an open mind and provide feedback that makes sense to you given your strategy.
I care about evidence quality to the extent that I believe in ethically cut evidence, but I think evidence can come in many forms. I won’t read evidence after a debate unless there is an egregious discrepancy over it, or I've been instructed to do so. I think debaters should be able to explain their evidence well enough that I shouldn’t have to read it, so if I'm reading evidence then you haven't done your job to know the literature and will probably receive more judge intervention from me. That being said, I understand that in policy debate reading evidence has become a large part of judging etc, because I'm not ever cutting politics updates be CLEAR and EXPLICIT about why I am reading ev/ what I should be looking for.
Will have a high threshold for voting for out-of-round violences, but if provided with receipts it's not impossible.
Please know I am more than comfortable“clearing”you. Disclosure is good and should be reciprocated. Clipping/cutting cards out of context is academic malpractice and will result in an automatic loss.
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Truth over Tech -OR- Tech over Truth
For the most part, I am tech over truth, but if both teams are ahead on technical portions of the debate, I will probably use truth to break the tie.
Framework
I think debates about debate are valuable and provide a space for confrontation over a number of debate's disparities/conflicts. A strong defense of your model and a set of specific net-benefits is important. Sure, debate is a game, education is almost always a tiebreaker. Fairness is a fake impact -- go for it I guess but I find it rare nowadays that people actually go for it. I think impact-turning framework is always a viable option. I think both sides should also clearly understand their relationship to the ballot and what the debate is supposed to resolve. At the end of the debate, I should be able to explain the model I voted for and why I thought it was better for debate. Any self-deemed prior questions should be framed as such. All of that is to say there is nothing you can do in this debate that I haven't probably seen so do whatever you think will win you the debate.
Performance + K Affirmatives
Judge instruction and strong articulation of your relationship to the ballot is necessary. At the end of the debate, I shouldn't be left feeling that the performative aspects of the strategy were useless/disjointed from debate and your chosen literature base.
Kritiks
I filter a lot of what I have read through my own experience both in and out of academia. I think it’s important for debaters to also consider their identity/experience in the context of your/their argument. I would avoid relying too much on jargon because I think it’s important to make the conversations that Kritiks provide accessible. I have read/researched enough to say I can evaluate just about anything, but don't use that as an excuse to be vague or assume that I'll do the work for you. At the end of the debate, there should be a clear link to the AFF, and an explanation of how your alternative solves the links -- too many people try to kick the alt and I don't get it. Links to the AFF’s performance, subject formation, and scholarship are fair game. I don’t want to say I am 100% opposed to judging kicking alts for people, but I won’t be happy about it and doubt that it will work out for you. If you wanna kick it, then just do it yourself... but again I don't get it.
Any other questions, just ask -- at this point people should know what to expect from me and feel comfortable reaching out.
Goodluck and have fun!
I debated at Lansing High School for 4 years
I currently do speech and debate at Western Kentucky University
email: nik.schintgentf@gmail.com
they/them
I don't care if you say judge, N, or Nik... just not Niklas
\\ I have an apd which makes it difficult to hear spreading so I'm probably not the best judge if you wish to do that, im sorry. Either way, you can go slow or spread in front of me but on the chance that you do spread don't blitz through the tags so I can actually pick up what you're trying to put down - the same goes for analytics or the rebuttals - if you need me to write make it so I can hear it. I cleared people at the end of my career as a debater and I will clear you now.//
General
Be respectful towards you're opponents
I think pre-round disclosure is good
Judge Instruction is going to be the most important for me. I want to know why you win the debate and how. Do comparative analysis, should be able to explain your evidence and why it is better than theirs and why this one thing means the debate goes entirely in your favor. If you don't then that's on you and will probably require me to do more intervening on my part.
I'm not going to read the evidence unless you tell me to. Don't just insert a rehighlight - tell me why it proves the aff/neg thesis to be false and then prove where that is in the ev.
I'm open to pretty much any arg - I've never had a problem with too many but if you as a debater think ev is bad and can be violent or exclusionary then tell me why. My debate partner and I in highschool made arguments like this in highschool so I can find them compelling.
IK this doesn't have a lot in it but I have a lot of the same debate philosophy as Jam Hoffman, Azja Butler, Joshua Michael, Alaina Walberg, Nate Nys, and some other folks as they have greatly influenced my debate career
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Tech/Truth
I always find myself to be tech over truth - unless you give me a reason not to be
Disadvantages
I like disadvantages and think the creative ones with a good link story end up winning my ballot the most. There are lots of tricks teams don't utilize enough, especially with ptx DAs. Do the impact calc and link work - you know.
Counterplans
I love counterplans and I don't feel like they get used creatively enough. I don't think a counterplan needs to solve for the entirety of the aff but you should have a reason why it doesn't need to.
Kritiks/K-Affs
I did K debate my last year of highschool reading Afro-Pessimism, Afro-Futurism, Vampiric Necropolitics, Taosim, Cap, Empire, and Ableism. I think the link debate is always important, you need to be able to answer questions like how does it link to the aff/topic? Impacts need to be impacted out- duh. You need to explain the alt/advocacy and how it resolves your impacts. Teams don't do this enough and just repeat the name of their alternative and other teams don't call them out enough on it.
T-FW/Framework
I don't think the negative spends enough time trying to frame aff offense out of the debate and that causes the negative to lose lots of rounds. Same goes for the aff, there are sometimes just lots of easily conceded arguments that can cause you to immediately lose the debate. I find these debates become extremely messy and make following very difficult so please keep it organized.
Topicality
A lot of the same stuff on T-FW applies over here. T violations are better when they are carded and I don't see people answering we meets well enough
MISC.
Clipping is an academic malpractice and will result in a loss and low speaks.
Same with slurs, etc.
I've noticed I have lots of feedback sometimes, especially for novices, so I'm sorry if you do not like that. Sometimes my writing tone can come off as mean or passive aggressive, I pinkie promise its not.
i could not care less about the status of your counterplan
4th-year debater at Lawrence Free State
Please add me to email chains (emma.stammeyer5@gmail.com)
Do impact calc and tell me why I should vote for you
I'll follow you on the flow but please signpost
I'm not the most well-versed in Kritik Literature, but if you explain it well, chances are that I can follow you
Make arguments, don't just read cards
Be kind to each other and have fun!
Focus on clear extensions of evidence into the rebuttals
Say where you stop if you don't get through the entire speech or an entire card
Policy/Forensicator junior at SMS
- she/they/idc-
add me to the email chain - lily.webb.debate@gmail.com
im cool with pretty much anything but...
- if you read a CP, make sure there's a net benefit, or articulate it well
- make sure to articulate K literature if you read one
- with T, make sure to provide a violation
- da's: i love them, especially link and impact debates
- if you talk about something triggering, give a trigger warning
- EXTEND YOUR ARGUMENTS
- also please don't spread, thanks!
any anti-blackness, racism, sexism, xenophobia, transphobia, homophobia, problematic behavior, etc will not be tolerated, you will be voted down immediately.
overall just have fun, debate is stressful so do what you feel like and try your best!