Hoisington Cardinal Nest Forensics Invitational
2023 — HOISINGTON, KS/US
Forensics Pool Paradigm List
All Paradigms: Show HideLay Judge with Tabula Rasa leanings - Looking for concise and clear arguments.
I've been coaching Policy Debate for many years now but did not compete in high school as it was not offered. I did not debate in college.
My judging criteria include:
Communication skills are equally as important as the resolution of substantive issues. As a judge and community member, your brilliance does little good if you can't communicate it effectively. Part of the educational value of Debate is the public speaking component. Find that sweet spot of speed, volume, clarity, and engagement while being informative and resourceful.
I would say my paradigm or approach is a combination of Stock Issues and Tabula Rasa.
Counterplans are seldom used where my school debates but I do believe they have their place. I'm pretty big on providing clash with the Aff having the burden to prove that anything at all needs changed in the SQ according to their plan.
If you run T, run it well, and don't use it as a spare tire just because you have no effective, clashing evidence.
There will always be generic DA's but they probably won't tip the ballot scale.
POLICY DEBATE IS AN EDUCATIONAL GAME AND I AM A GAMES-MAKER JUDGE. I REALLY DON’T CARE WHAT YOU RUN AS LONG AS YOU RUN IT INTELLIGENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY. I WILL VOTE FOR YOU AS LONG AS YOU “PLAY” THE GAME OF DEBATE BETTER WHEN IT COMES TO ARGUMENTATION, CLASH, AND ANALYSIS. BELOW IS A LINE BY LINE OF IMPORTANT NOTES AND TIPS ABOUT MY JUDGING STYLE.
EXPERIENCE:
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4-year high school debater
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Adept hired judge
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Multiple tournaments judged this season and previous seasons
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Mild knowledge of world politics
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Medium knowledge of world history, though the older I get the more I forget
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Spicy knowledge on debate terms and argumentation
SPEED:
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Okay with speed, but if you’re gonna spread make sure I get the WHOLE of your evidence. Not a master doc, not a half filled doc, the doc with ALL the evidence you plan on reading during that speech
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Make sure to slow down when transitioning between arguments or reading taglines, I need to at least understand some of your speech
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Unless you’re the 1AR there is no reason to spread through the rebuttals. Slow down, choose the important arguments, and convince me you should win
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If you don’t finish reading a card make sure to note that verbally before CX so everyone is clear on where you stopped
CROSS-EX:
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Don’t be mean/snobby, it makes me want to vote against you
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Always, whether you have good questions or not, use all of your CX time. It’s just a wise strategic decision to give your partner more time for speech building
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While I think CX is important I don’t believe it is binding, however if it is obvious that someone doesn’t understand their argumentation rather than making a simple mistake I will consider that in my vote
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Make sure you are actually ASKING questions and not just making statements
HARMS:
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Harms are important, but make sure they are up to date and properly demonstrate the SQUO
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I’d prefer if harms were labeled separately but I’m okay with them being flowed under justification or advantages. However, if asked in CX where your harms are, make sure to explain where they technically flow, whether that be justification, advantages, etc.
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Harms should form your framework because they are the components that you label as the most important. So if you get into the framework debate make sure to reference your harms as part of that framework.
INHERENCY:
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Inherency is also important, so make sure that your evidence is up to date and accurately displays the SQUO
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Once again, I’m okay with inherency flowing under justification just make sure to make that entirely clear
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If you’re on NEG try not to run inherency with DAs that contradict each other. For example if you say that the plan causes “x” impact and also that the plan is currently happening in the SQUO that puts you in a double bind and good teams will definitely catch you on that
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Make sure you actually understand what inherency is, if you don’t believe it’s valid that’s one thing but at least understand what it is
SOLVENCY:
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Make sure you actually have solvency cards that prove you solve for all the harms and impacts you label
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Make sure you know who your solvency advocates are just in case you are asked during CX
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DON’T powertag your solvency cards, they have to directly mention the subject of the plan and how it provides benefits for the SQUO. Good teams will tear apart a powertagged solvency card
ADVANTAGES:
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I prefer impacts that are more realistic than terminal impacts, stuff like climate change, food scarcity, proxy wars, etc.
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Make sure your advantages have proper internal links and make good logical sense at a quick glance
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Advantages also help form your framework so at the end of the round when you’re pushing framework, use your advantages and harms to do so
PLAN:
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I’d prefer if you have plan planks that explain your funding mechanism, enforcement, etc.
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I need to be able to have a solid grasp on what your plan is doing from plan text and plan planks alone, I hate AFFs that are purposely vague
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Make sure you actually understand your case, I dislike when the AFF reads a case and then absolutely fumbles the bag knowing their case during CX
TOPICALITY:
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I don’t like extra topical or effects topical cases, so I’m more inclined to vote against an AFF if the NEG can run a solid effects or extra topicality argument
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STANDARDS and VOTERS are huge DON’T drop them
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Unless an AFF is super untopical and abusive, topicality is more like a filler argument to me, don’t be afraid to run it but also don’t expect to win on it
DISADVANTAGES:
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I think brink and uniqueness are important so try to have them in your DAs
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Make sure you have proper internal linkage to the impact, I dislike DAs that make broad assumptions without proper evidence
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Generic DAs are okay in my eyes, just don’t continue to push them if the AFF thoroughly dismantles them. Also, make sure they link to the case
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Once again, I prefer realistic impacts over terminal ones
VAGUENESS:
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Only run vagueness if they are intentionally being vague and there is proof of abuse, aka them being a moving target
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Make sure to only run vagueness when the thing they are being vague about is valuable to the debate. Don’t focus in on a component of the case that means absolutely nothing in the context of the resolution, case, and debate as a whole
COUNTERPLANS:
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PLEASE have CP plan text, even if you just copy and paste their plan text into your CP shell, at the least have something
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Before you run CPs make sure you understand what conditionality, a perm, and a net benefit is, otherwise you might get into some trouble during round
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Make sure your CP is not topical, otherwise you, as the NEG, would be affirming the resolution which is the AFFs job
KRITIKS:
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I’m not super well versed in kritik debate so don’t rely on me to know when a response is poor or not
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I understand the need for kritiks at some points but unless there is a super crazy link from something the AFF said, I’d rather just stay focused on the topic of the resolution
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Whatever you do DON’T run an ableism kritik on someone for calling themselves stupid during round. I have a bad memory from when I was in high school so I’d rather not be reminded of that
PET PEEVES:
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I hate the phrase “Is anybody not ready”
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Be quick when sharing evidence, I hate just sitting around because people can’t figure out how to download and share their evidence. Just use Speech Drop it’s the most efficient method I’ve found
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Use all of your speech time no matter the speech, there is always something more you can run or extend
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Use all of your CX time even if it’s just for clarification
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I dislike ad hominem attacks
I did not debate in high school or college, but have served as a debate assistant for several years. I have judged about 10 rounds on this year's topic. I am policy maker or stock issue judge. I appreciate when teams listen to the evidence that the other team is reading and analyze it and check the warrants. I hate just reading blocks without explanation.
The Affirmative has the burden of proof to support the resolution. You will probably do better if you do not speed read to me.
Generic Disads, Counter Plans, Kritiks are fine. Topicality is fine. Specific links are important. Explanation is important.
The last speakers should weight the round.
I will penalize rudeness. Just be nice to each other.
I competed in high school debate in a small 4A/3A school for four years in the late 80’s, was part of K-State’s CEDA national championship team in the 90’s. I coached for about 10 years before taking a break to raise kids and I am now in my 5th year back.
I know debate and my coach's heart is strong. . . but I am better at the older style of debate than the newer style of debate.
Important:
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My most important rule is “Be Kind.” There is a reason this activity needs to be accessible to all. Don’t pollute the activity that I love.
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I used to say speaking fast is fine. I am editing my paradigm now to say that the recent fast rounds that I have judged have not been articulated clearly enough for me to understand. In the end, this is still a communication activity. Additionally, mindless reading of blocks without clash is not good debate. Please flow and put your arguments on the flow. You shouldn't be able to speak from just a preloaded block on your computer. I enjoy line by line argumentation. I expect summarizing and explanation in between. I appreciate speed most when it is utilized to analyze and weigh responses and dislike when teams spread through unwarranted responses to attempt to overwhelm the other team.
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I am probably closest to a policy-maker or a stock issues judge, but am willing to consider other paradigms if you want me to.
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I expect you to weigh the round and analyze the voting issues in the final rebuttals.
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Please include me in any email chain or evidence sharing, but I will probably only look at the evidence if it's important to my decision and 1) someone asks me to or 2) I think it sounds misconstrued.
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I will not evaluate any K's, or theory arguments unless you tell me how to approach the argument and how it weighs in the round. Don’t get me wrong, I am willing to listen to K's, although I have little experience reading or evaluating them. If you run these arguments, please avoid excessive jargon. You are going to have to be super clear.
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Cross-ex is for questions not arguments. You will get a lot further with your argumentation if you save it for the speech. I don’t flow cross-ex and usually am working on the ballot during that time.
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I will vote on topicality if necessary.
- I will not vote on vagueness unless clarifying questions are asked of the affirmative in cross-examination AND their case becomes a moving target.
- I will not vote on disclosure theory. Just debate the round.
- I know that I am old school, but I believe that feeding your partner what to say during their speech or cross-ex makes that partner look weak. Trust your partners. They are smart people.
- I hate rudeness and will penalize. Don’t put another person down and don’t try to make them look stupid . . . other than that, speaks are based on strategy/arguments, not style/speaking ability. I stick to 27 - 30 for speaker points unless you are rude, condescending, racist, sexist, homophobic, etc.
I am frustrated by excessive tech time (there is a reason that we added prep-time). Please keep a fair track of your time. I don’t want to have to worry about it. But don’t cheat on time.
If you have any questions, ask before the round. I will do my best to give you meaningful feedback about your strengths in the round and how I think you can improve on the ballot.
Best of luck! Have fun! Enjoy! Form connections . . . that’s what debate is all about!
I am a former debate coach in central/western Kansas. I tend to vote stock issues. I am not wild about kritiks, counterplans, or "off the wall" topicality arguments, but I will listen. The message is important, but so is speaking style and skill.
1. Communicative skills and resolution of substantive issues are of roughly equal importance.
2. Skill emphasis (Who does the "better job of debating") best describes my paradigm or approach to judging debate.
3. A fairly rapid delivery presentation is acceptable so long as presentation is clearly enunciated-very rapid speed discouraged.
4. Counterplans are acceptable even if justified, and if consistent with other elements of the negative approach.
5. Topicality is fairly important; roughly on par with other major issues in the round.
6. I find generic disadvantages acceptable if specific links are clearly analyzed.
7. I find kritiks acceptable if specific links are clearly analyzed.
I look for well articulated arguments and a demonstration of understanding. Anyone can get up and read evidence, so show me that you understand how that evidence proves the point you are trying to make. I prefer good analysis of a few arguments rather than a large array of arguments. (Don't spread!)
Not everything leads to war.
Be nice to each other.
Experience
4-year policy debater/forensian @ Lansing HS (light congress) 2001-2005
4-year assistant debate/forensics @ Lansing HS 2006-2011
7 years head coaching debate/forensics (1 Leavenworth 2010-2011, 5 Salina-Sacred Heart 2012-2018, 1 Hutchinson 2018-2019)
4 years assistant debate/forensics @ McPherson HS 2020-pres
Policy:
I like T that links, DAs and affirmative advantages should have real-world feasible impacts, and I am only in favor of K debate if the framework has equal ground for both teams to earn a ballot (don't run K's that are impossible for the aff to meet the alt). CPs must be competitive to be viable. Tell me why you win and what to vote for.
I believe the negative has to have a coherent position. I don't buy the "multiple worlds" theory of negative debate.
I am fine with open CX, but I am immensely against open speeches. Never feed your colleague lines in a speech. I don't care if they parrot your words exactly, it is not your speech to give.
LD:
I like deep discussions on interactions between the value and its criterion, especially when values and criterion are cross-applied between competing sides. I see LD as competing frameworks and will prefer the debater that does a better job framing the resolution in terms of the value and its criterion (or criteria).
PFD:
I have no idea how this format works. I will vote on the team that gives the most compelling reasons to prefer.