The Ed Long Invitational at The Hockaday School
2023 — Dallas, TX/US
Novice CX Debate Paradigm List
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In high school, I was a policy debater. I competed in Parliamentary Debate at New York University. Now, I'm a trial lawyer.
1. Speed is fine, just be clear.
2. Evidence and well-constructed arguments matter.
3. Do not drop arguments. Clash is important.
St. Mark's '24
Email -applbaumdebate@gmail.com; smdebatedocs@gmail.com ; if policy, please use both emails; if LD, just use the first one.
Top Level - Tech>truth; Clarity>speed; I'll vote on just about anything unless it's offensive; My knowledge of most kritiks is minimal, so if you plan on running one please try to explain it; this paradigm will continue to grow as I evolve as a debater and a judge.
Online Stuff - If I am lagging, please let me know; I'll do the same for you if you lag.
DA - Needs a complete shell
CP- The more specific the solvency, the better.
Theory: Agent CPs are almost always good; condo can be good or bad; international fiat is usually good; process cps are good; PICs are usually good; word PICs are usually good.
T - Competing interps > reasonability
K- Assume I have 0 knowledge of what the k is. Specific aff links are overpowered. I don't like incredibly verbose tags.
LD - I have 0 topic knowledge. All I know about LD is the basic rules, so sorry if I'm a little slow to figure stuff out.
St. Mark's '24
2A
Tech > Truth, I'll vote on anything as long as it's warranted and not harmful (racist, sexist, etc.)
add both to the chain
Speaker Point Scale:
29.8 - 30 - should reach late elims
29.4 - 29.7 - should clear
28.9 - 29.2 - should go 3-3 or 2-4
28.5 - 28.8 - serious errors in strategy
+ 0.1 speaker points if you open source ev - if you are a novice and your top teams open source this also counts
How I evaluate rounds:
- even though this is novice - I will flow the rounds and try to evaluate the round with the least judge intervention
- I try to avoid reading evidence but will have to if the debaters don't resolve the central questions for me
Argument prefs:
I am fine for policy and K, but I am usually on the policy side of these debates.
DA:
I think they are especially strong on this topic.
like 70% of my 1nr's have been on the econ DA or ptx DA
CP:
I prefer you go for competition over theory - ie. against Burden Sharing QPQ - defend that counterplans must be textually and functionally competitive is better than going for conditions CP bad.
PDCP > Intrinsic Perm > "delay/sequencing" perm
K:
I will decide in favor of one sides interp
I dislike middle-ground interps because I find it hard to weigh the affs imaginary extinction impact against the negs in round violence impact - you can still go for it though
if you are reading high theory explain it well
I personally think fairness > clash, but I have gone for both and am fine for either
K affs:
I am bad for KvK debates (apart from cap K)
When I'm neg we exclusively go for T USFG (unless the 1ar or 2ac mishandles something else) so that should tell you what I think about K affs
Condo thoughts -
I have no strong thoughts - if you are Aff make sure you central offense is developed before the 2ar
https://www.tabroom.com/index/paradigm.mhtml
^I vehemently disagree with every word of this paradigm. Making mocking references to it will certainly earn you higher speaker points. You should use it to construct my argumentative ideology by taking every premise presented within it and assuming that I believe the exact opposite.
email: sxc6165@g.coppellisd.com
Be respectful to each other. Debate should be a safe environment. Any -isms (racism, sexism, misgendering, etc.) will lower speaks and result in you losing.
St. Mark's BG '24
2N
Emails:
aguddati@gmail.com
T/:L
Tech>>>Truth. Judge intervention is existential. You can read what you want. I have always have a deep appreciation for some judges in this community that have helped me grow. I will try to reciprocate them as best as I can.
Evidence Ethics: I may have a higher threshold for voting on this than others. Personally, I don't think a team should lose a round they have prepared 4 years for because they took some card from a 7th grader at camp in response to the Edelman K, and the card miscapitalized a single letter. Obviously, not all ethics challenges are like that. There is no brightline, and I will evaluate a case-by-case basis. If you email and let the other team know before the round that they have an ev ethics issue, I will boost your speaks by +.5
Speaker Points:
I give speaks based off the modern norm now.
Ways to get rewarded with extra points: Open Source all evidence read (tell me before the round), Great crossx, jokes, etc., dressing nicely
Keep camera on in online debates.
Postrounding is the highest form of respect. Please postround me.
I'm a student at Greenhill School, this is my fourth year of debate, and I'm really excited to judge y'all!
please add me to the email chain:
jagsidebate@gmail.com
I'm good with mostly any argument, except problematic or blatantly discriminatory ones.
Be nice to your opponents AND your teammates!
For Novices:
- Unless you are 100% confident in your spreading, please don't. I value clarity over speed.
- If you show me your flows at the end of the debate, I'll give you +.1 speaks
Pls add me to the email chain. email: aniajalori2@gmail.com
I am a junior who does policy debate at Coppell HS.
CLARITY: I have to be able to hear your tagline to write it down. If you want to read your evidence fast that's fine but slow down for taglines. If I can't understand it, I just won't write it.
Speaks: Some ways to get good speaks:
1) Speaking clearly, confidently, and convincingly.
2) Signposting and line-by-line
I will not vote on any homophobic/transphobic/racist/etc. arguments. Be nice and have fun!! Reach out and ask me any questions.
Dan Lingel Jesuit College Prep—Dallas
danlingel@gmail.com for email chain purposes
dlingel@jesuitcp.org for school contact
"Be smart. Be strategic. Tell your story. And above all have fun and you shall be rewarded."--the conclusion of my 1990 NDT Judging Philosophy
Updated for 2023-2024 topic
30 years of high school coaching/6 years of college coaching
I will either judge or help in the tabroom at over 20+ tournaments
****read here first*****
I still really love to judge and I enjoy judging quick clear confident comparative passionate advocates that use qualified and structured argument and evidence to prove their victory paths. I expect you to respect the game and the people that are playing it in every moment we are interacting.
***I believe that framing/labeling arguments and paper flowing is crucial to success in debate and maybe life so I will start your speaker points absurdly high and work my way up (look at the data) if you acknowledge and represent these elements: label your arguments (even use numbers and structure) and can demonstrate that you flowed the entire debate and that you used your flow to give your speeches and in particular demonstrate that you used your flow to actually clash with the other teams arguments directly.
Some things that influence my decision making process
1. Debate is first and foremost a persuasive activity that asks both teams to advocate something. Defend an advocacy/method and defend it with evidence and compare your advocacy/method to the advocacy of the other team. I understand that there are many ways to advocate and support your advocacy so be sure that you can defend your choices. I do prefer that the topic is an access point for your advocacy.
2. The negative should always have the option of defending the status quo (in other words, I assume the existence of some conditionality) unless argued otherwise.
3. The net benefits to a counterplan must be a reason to reject the affirmative advocacy (plan, both the plan and counterplan together, and/or the perm) not just be an advantage to the counterplan.
4. I enjoy a good link narrative since it is a critical component of all arguments in the arsenal—everything starts with the link. I think the negative should mention the specifics of the affirmative plan in their link narratives. A good link narrative is a combination of evidence, analytical arguments, and narrative.
5. Be sure to assess the uniqueness of offensive arguments using the arguments in the debate and the status quo. This is an area that is often left for judge intervention and I will.
6. I am not the biggest fan of topicality debates unless the interpretation is grounded by clear evidence and provides a version of the topic that will produce the best debates—those interpretations definitely exist this year. Generally speaking, I can be persuaded by potential for abuse arguments on topicality as they relate to other standards because I think in round abuse can be manufactured by a strategic negative team.
7. I believe that the links to the plan, the impact narratives, the interaction between the alternative and the affirmative harm, and/or the role of the ballot should be discussed more in most kritik debates. The more case and topic specific your kritik the more I enjoy the debate. Too much time is spent on framework in many debates without clear utility or relation to how I should judge the debate.
8. There has been a proliferation of theory arguments and decision rules, which has diluted the value of each. The impact to theory is rarely debating beyond trite phrases and catch words. My default is to reject the argument not the team on theory issues unless it is argued otherwise.
9. Speaker points--If you are not preferring me you are using old data and old perceptions. It is easy to get me to give very high points. Here is the method to my madness on this so do not be deterred just adapt. I award speaker points based on the following: strategic and argumentative decision-making, the challenge presented by the context of the debate, technical proficiency, persuasive personal and argumentative style, your use of the cross examination periods, and the overall enjoyment level of your speeches and the debate. If you devalue the nature of the game or its players or choose not to engage in either asking or answering questions, your speaker points will be impacted. If you turn me into a mere information processor then your points will be impacted. If you choose artificially created efficiency claims instead of making complete and persuasive arguments that relate to an actual victory path then your points will be impacted.
10. I believe in the value of debate as the greatest pedagogical tool on the planet. Reaching the highest levels of debate requires mastery of arguments from many disciplines including communication, argumentation, politics, philosophy, economics, and sociology to name a just a few. The organizational, research, persuasion and critical thinking skills are sought by every would-be admission counselor and employer. Throw in the competitive part and you have one wicked game. I have spent over thirty years playing it at every level and from every angle and I try to make myself a better player everyday and through every interaction I have. I think that you can learn from everyone in the activity how to play the debate game better. The world needs debate and advocates/policymakers more now than at any other point in history. I believe that the debates that we have now can and will influence real people and institutions now and in the future—empirically it has happened. I believe that this passion influences how I coach and judge debates.
Logistical Notes--I prefer an email chain with me included whenever possible. I feel that each team should have accurate and equal access to the evidence that is read in the debate. I have noticed several things that worry me in debates. People have stopped flowing and paying attention to the flow and line-by-line which is really impacting my decision making; people are exchanging more evidence than is actually being read without concern for the other team, people are under highlighting their evidence and "making cards" out of large amounts of text, and the amount of prep time taken exchanging the information is becoming excessive. I reserve the right to request a copy of all things exchanged as verification. If three cards or less are being read in the speech then it is more than ok that the exchange in evidence occur after the speech.
St. Mark's '24
2A
pls add both to the chain
Be kind and have fun. Being rude/offensive will dramatically lower your speaks and make me annoyed.
How I evaluate rounds:
- I evaluate the round first using the flow and judge instruction.
- Tech > Truth, but true/logical/clever arguments are much easier to win than generic strategies or tricks. That being said, I'll vote on anything as long as it's warranted and not harmful (racist, sexist, etc.). Any of my below preferences can be changed by good debating and I will try to intervene as little as possible.
- I strike off new arguments made in the rebuttals unless reciprocal with other new answers made (if the block makes a new impact, the 1AR can impact turn it, read defense to it, etc.). However, make sure to point out new arguments or give a justification for making a new argument.
- I won't decide rounds based on things that happened before the pairing came out.
Argument prefs:
I've debated largely policy for my career so far, so take that as you will.
DA:
Zero risk is possible but unlikely.
I like good DA debates - the more specific the better, but about 30% of my 1NR's on the CJR/Water topics were politics, so I understand that generic DAs are useful.
utilize turns case and line-by-line 2AC/1AR arguments as much as possible
best affirmative answers are usually pressing the internal links
Topicality:
Default is competing interps. Predictable definitions probably matter more than a limited topic, but limited topics are good. Preparation and clash are good and limited topics tend to make that easier.
Non-resolutional procedurals are almost always not voting issues.
CP:
Again these are good for me
Cheaty counterplans - depending on how cheaty it is - the more sympathetic I am for cheaty perms or theory.
I prefer you go for competition over theory - ie. against Burden Sharing QPQ - going for an intrinsic perm is better than going for conditions CPs bad.
Probably better than most for condo bad, usually in novice/JV 3 counterplans is already pushing it.
K
I'm probably less familiar with your literature, so examples and specific explanation is very helpful.
Specific links are always better than generic topic links, but at worst please contextualize generic links to the aff. Affs should probably get to weigh their plan and K's of fiat are not my favorite. Alt debating is usually pretty weak for the neg, so try to give examples and be as specific as possible. For the aff, make your plan matter.
For both sides, make framework matter. Tell me what framework implicates and how I should evaluate different parts of the flow if you win/lose framework.
K affs v FW:
Better for the neg in these debates as my predisposition is that teams should defend the resolution on the affirmative.
Debate is probably a game and fairness is probably good. That being said, debate can still have material impacts on us as people, but you have to explain why voting aff matters. Clash is a good way to access aff offense for the neg. The best way to win my ballot as the aff is to impact turn the neg's model and do impact calc.
K v K
Not experienced in these kinds of debates.
The team that does the clearest link explanation and impact calculus will probably win my ballot. As for the aff, the perm seems logical to me, but the neg can definitely beat it through strong link explanation.
Impact Turns -
Also enjoy these - read good/new cards because evidence tends to matter a lot in these debates
Speaker Point Scale: I probably give above-average speaks - particularly to novices.
I know this is likely your first or second year in debate, so as long as you're trying your best and are kind to your opponents I will be very forgiving.
29.6 - 30 - should reach late elims
29.2 - 29.5 - should clear
28.7 - 29.1 - should be close to clearing
28.2 - 28.6 - didn't like the strategy
Other speaker point things:
+0.1 speaker points if you open source on the wiki
+0.2 speaker points if I can clearly tell you are trying to do line by line instead of reading your varsity team members' blocks.
greenhill
be nice to each other and have fun!
Coppell '24
POLICY/LINCOLN-DOUGLAS:
Please add this email to the email chain: this.is.sahilp@gmail.com.
I am a Worlds judge, so to make it easiest for me slow down and make your arguments clear, I have almost no experience in other events.
WORLD SCHOOLS:
This event is by far where most of my competitive experience is.
A few general things:
- Do not barrack with your POI's, it will result in lower speaker points.
- Do not ask POI's during the first and last minute of the constructive speeches and do not ask POI's during the reply speeches.
- Use weighing and warrants to substantiate your claims and prove to me why you should win the round. The less work I have to do, the better.
- World comparison is very important as it clearly paints to me a world I would rather live in. Don't make me fill in the blanks and intervene!
- Do not spread, make sure you are speaking at a conversational speed.
With all that being said, good luck in round!
St. Mark's School of Texas '24
Please put me on the email chain: lseawarddebate@gmail.com and smdebatedocs@gmail.com.
Be nice and have fun!
Big Picture Stuff:
- I'm big on tech over truth, so run whatever you want
- High clash, effective CX, knowing your ev, and open sourcing are routes to high speaks.
- I'd appreciate a card doc. No need to ask.
Specifics:
These are my personal thoughts on various positions. If you outdebate you opponents, they won't matter. Even in close debate, IMO I've never made a decision based on them, but I feel I should let you know anyway.
T:
I like plan text in a vacuum
I think predictability is more important than debatability.
CP:
I think deficits should have clear impacts in the 2AC. ("CP d/n solve the AI scenario" is fine. "CP can't fund the plan" isn't)
I'm fine with inserting CP or perm texts.
Don't be scared of going for theory - I'll treat it like any other argument.
I'm good for condo bad. I prefer research/education as the impact, but fairness is fine too.
DA:
Impact calc leads to wins.
I'll give higher speaks for newer UQ ev.
I'm open to politics DA theory/theory-based no link args.
K:
Aff specific links go a long way.
I don't want to or think I should create a middle ground framework.
I think vague alts are abusive.
I don't think fairness is an impact beyond turning the neg's impacts.
I don't think purely analytic FW DAs should be given much credit.
Case:
Have it, if possible.
DA + Case 2NR = High speaks.
Ahsan Tahirkheli, St. Mark's MT, Emory University '28
ahsantahirkhelidebate@gmail.com
I will not evaluate anything that happened outside of the round
---disclosure theory etc. is fine.
Tech over Truth
True is still new
Not good for KvK, pretty sure the perm is unbeatable
Theory prolly reason to reject arg except condo, definitely not gonna be persuaded by a condo 2ar w/o a clear abuse story. I think extending condo into the 1AR is strategic unless you make a mistake undercovering something else. As a 2N, I protect the 2NR in every instance and will draw a line from the 1AR to the 2AR.
Better for the K vs a policy aff than some might think, will decide between the two framework interpretations at hand. I think kritiks should moot the plan and weaponize tricks more.
A K Aff that goes for the impact turn rather than a c/i is more persuasive in front of me, but you do you. I have exclusively gone for framework vs planless affs.
"losing heroically is probably worse than winning like a coward" - Mr. Mr.
People I agree with:
Gautam Chamarthy, Ayush Potdar, Jerry Chen, Ashrit Manduva, Anish Guddati, Christian Bohmer, Michael Ross, Sameer Varkantham, Kavneer Majhail, Jordan Yao, Harry Wang, Ishan Sharma, Ian Shone, and Surya Krishnapillai.
https://www.tabroom.com/index/paradigm.mhtml?judge_person_id=240295
^I vehemently disagree with every word of this paradigm. Making mocking references to it will certainly earn you higher speaker points. You should use it to construct my argumentative ideology by taking every premise presented within it and assuming that I believe the exact opposite.
Background: I currently coach at Caddo Mills High School. I attended Athens High School and competed in forensics all four years, graduating in '14. I also competed on the collegiate level at Tyler Junior College and UT Tyler.
If you have any questions about a particular round, feel free to email me at phillipmichaelw91@gmail.com
For my general paradigm:
I consider myself a tab judge. I'll listen to any arguments that you want to run as long as you're doing the work and telling me why they matter (I shouldn't have to say this but I also expect a level of civility in your arguments, i.e. no racist, sexist, or any other blatantly offensive arguments will be tolerated). When I am evaluating the round, I will look for the path of least resistance, meaning I'm looking to do the least amount of work possible. At the end of the round, I would like you to make the decision for me; meaning you should be telling me how to vote and why. However, if need be, I will default to a policymaker.
Speed is okay with me. However, as the activity has become more reliant on the sharing of speech docs, I don't think this means you get to be utterly incomprehensible. If I can't understand you I will call "clear" once. If your clarity does not improve, I will stop flowing. I also believe that debates should be as inclusive as possible and speed, by its very nature, tends to be incredibly exclusive via ablenormativity. If your opponents have trouble understanding you and call "clear," I believe it is your job to create a space that is inclusive for them. *Note: this is not a green light to call "clear" on your opponents as many times as you'd like and vice versa. Once is sufficient. If clarity does not improve, I will make notes on the ballot and dock speaks accordingly. Keep in mind that the best debaters do not need to rely on speed to win.
Please keep your own time.
I evaluate LD, Policy, and PFD through the same lens. I'm looking for offense and I'm voting for whoever tells me why their offense is more important. This doesn't mean that you can't run defense but 99% of the time, defense alone, will not win you my ballot.
As for how I feel about certain arguments:
Theory/Topicality: I look to theory before evaluating the rest of the round. There are a few things that I want if you're going to run and or win on theory. First, I expect you to go all in on it. If you aren't spending all your time in your last speech on theory, that tells me that it's not worth my time voting on it. This means if you go for T and a disad, I won't vote on the Topicality, even if you're winning it. Second, I want to know where the in-round abuse is. How is what the other team is doing specifically detrimental to your ability to win? (hint: don't just say "That's abusive") Lastly, please extend an impact. Why is the way that the other team has chosen to debate bad? Please don't stop at the internal links, i.e. saying "it's bad for limits/ground/etc.". Tell me why that matters for debate.
Framework: I look to FW before evaluating the rest of the round, after theory. It would probably be beneficial to run arguments on both sides of the framework in case I wind up voting against or in favor of the framework you go for (especially in LD).
Kritiks: If you want to run a K, I would like it to be done well. That means you should have framework/a roll of the ballot/judge claim, a link, impact, and an alt. I want to know how the way I vote impacts the world or pertains to the argument that you're making. I will listen to multiple worlds arguments but if it becomes ridiculous I will not be afraid to vote on abuse. To win the kritik, I expect well-fleshed-out arguments that are extended throughout the round.
Counterplans/Disads: Counterplans don't have to be topical. They should be competitive. Please don't read counter-plan theory on the same sheet of paper as the counter-plan proper. Tell me to get another sheet of paper. Your theory position should still have an interp., standards, and voters. Disads should be structured well and have case-specific links.
In LD, I don't think running counterplans makes a ton of sense if the Affirmative is not defending a plan of action (Hint: defending the resolution is not a plan). This is because there is no opportunity cost, which means the perm is always going to function. If you're going to run a counterplan, you're going to have to do a lot of work to prove to me that you still get to weigh the counterplan against the Aff case.
If you have any specific questions or concerns about my paradigm or the way in which I evaluate the round, don't be afraid to ask before the round starts.
Affiliations: St. Mark's 2024
paradigm from Maxwell Chuang
Email Chain: harrywangdebate@gmail.com. and smdebatedocs@gmail.com. Please make the subject of the chain relevant. ie. include the tournament, round, and teams debating in the subject line of the email.
TLDR:
-Tech>Truth
-If i cannot explain what I am voting for by the end of the round I will not vote on it.
-Won't vote on out of round issues
-I will read evidence if a team if asked to after the round, but in round explanation of the evidence >
-Ask if you have questions about something not on my paradigm
Online:
-Camera on = good
-Don't start your speech if my camera is off
Topicality:
-T debates are good
-Evidence quality matters
Counterplans:
-Biased for the negative on most counterplan theory, but the affirmative can definitely convince me otherwise
-The affirmative should be certain and immediate
-Tell me to judge-kick the counterplan
-Will vote for any counterplan given better technical execution by the negative
-PICs are good
-Word PICs also good
-Process counterplans great
-Advantage counterplans good
Ks:
-Not well-versed in high theory literature
-Well-versed in cap, good for security, etc.
-Long overviews make me sad
Disadvantages:
-Taking a generic disadvantage and contextualizing it to the 1AC is strategic
-Turns case is awesome and is even better with spin
-However, that only matters if you win a substantial risk of the disadvantage
-Link uniqueness is important
K Affs/T USFG:
-If your strategy is not to defend the resolution traditionally, you should go for a counter-interp that provides the negative a benefit from negating the 1AC
-I personally think procedural fairness is an impact, but I can be convinced otherwise
Theory:
-Neg biased on most theory
-Aff theory: usually hailmary and bad
-condo is good, same with 50 state
Speaks:
-Will unmute to clear 3 times in one speech before going to play league
-being funny/making jokes = higher speaks
-mentioning league = +.1 speaks
-cx: you do you
Random:
-Yes, you can insert rehighlightings
-I will protect the 2NR
-No risk exists
-Good formatting gets bonus speaks, not making the email chain correctly gets less speaks
-Clipping = L
-Open Source = +.1 speaks if you let me know